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Aren't batteries going bad the main reason people replace devices right now? Sealed in so that it's difficult to replace them or get them replaced? I feel lik

Aren't batteries going bad the main reason people replace devices right now? Sealed in so that it's difficult to replace them or get them replaced? I feel like that's why we wouldn't see this. It's like a cure for a disease that people are making a ton of money treating instead of curing.

from-nibly 3y ago
while I don't think these are going to work unless they can get a 5 watt battery the same size as a phone battery, if they actually have a 50 year lifespan like the company claims that would be WAY more than the lifespan of the device. If it actually existed you'd actually have the opposite problem. "My battery is fine but this device just isn't keeping up, can I transfer my battery to my new device?"
CyberDildonics 3y ago
In your mind, someone makes a battery that works, then sells it, then what happens?
- chankstein38 3y ago
  People don't buy another one for a long time and they go out of business? It's not like planned obsolescence isn't built into so much of what we own and buy today. I guess maybe I don't understand the question?
  - CyberDildonics 3y ago
    I guess maybe I don't understand the question? Correct, I'm glad you asked. Most batteries are embedded in electronics and have dozens of different form factors. Are you under the impression people buy a single battery and replace it when it wears out? Under this logic wouldn't rechargeable battery makers have put themselves out of business a long time ago?
    - chankstein38 3y ago
      Do you not understand that rechargeable batteries have a lifespan? A finite amount of cycles where they're viable to recharge and continue use? If you have an iphone, have you checked the reported battery health on it? The point is, if something is producing power and never needs replaced, it never goes bad. As in, it's not just rechargeable it's effectively infinite from the perspective of a human's lifespan. So, no, rechargeable battery manufacturers aren't out of business because after a couple hundred recharge cycles they need replaced still. Similarly, with devices like phones where the batteries are usually sealed in, the batteries go bad after a year or two and frequently you're met with "Should I pay $150 to get the battery replaced or $1000 for a new phone?" and, after 2 years sometimes it's more practical to replace the phone. But you wouldn't be met with that if your battery lasted "forever" you'd replace the phone when you couldn't stand the age anymore or when it fell out of support or when you broke the screen. Most of those things take way longer than the 2 years or so of daily recharges that it seems phone batteries last. If you can't understand why, think about devices that are plugged in. (which is effectively what this would be since it generates power) I've had the same computer running nearly 24/7 for about 6 years. In that time, I've replaced some batteries and bought new phones/tablets/etc due to batteries that started dying at 20% or not fully charging.
      - CyberDildonics 3y ago
        You realize this would have nothing to do with phones right? It would be for long term low energy devices. That's like saying the solar strip on a calculator would put calculator makers out of business so Big Calculator won't let it happen.

from-nibly 3y ago

while I don't think these are going to work unless they can get a 5 watt battery the same size as a phone battery, if they actually have a 50 year lifespan like the company claims that would be WAY more than the lifespan of the device. If it actually existed you'd actually have the opposite problem. "My battery is fine but this device just isn't keeping up, can I transfer my battery to my new device?"

CyberDildonics 3y ago

In your mind, someone makes a battery that works, then sells it, then what happens?

chankstein38 3y ago
People don't buy another one for a long time and they go out of business? It's not like planned obsolescence isn't built into so much of what we own and buy today. I guess maybe I don't understand the question?
- CyberDildonics 3y ago
  I guess maybe I don't understand the question? Correct, I'm glad you asked. Most batteries are embedded in electronics and have dozens of different form factors. Are you under the impression people buy a single battery and replace it when it wears out? Under this logic wouldn't rechargeable battery makers have put themselves out of business a long time ago?
  - chankstein38 3y ago
    Do you not understand that rechargeable batteries have a lifespan? A finite amount of cycles where they're viable to recharge and continue use? If you have an iphone, have you checked the reported battery health on it? The point is, if something is producing power and never needs replaced, it never goes bad. As in, it's not just rechargeable it's effectively infinite from the perspective of a human's lifespan. So, no, rechargeable battery manufacturers aren't out of business because after a couple hundred recharge cycles they need replaced still. Similarly, with devices like phones where the batteries are usually sealed in, the batteries go bad after a year or two and frequently you're met with "Should I pay $150 to get the battery replaced or $1000 for a new phone?" and, after 2 years sometimes it's more practical to replace the phone. But you wouldn't be met with that if your battery lasted "forever" you'd replace the phone when you couldn't stand the age anymore or when it fell out of support or when you broke the screen. Most of those things take way longer than the 2 years or so of daily recharges that it seems phone batteries last. If you can't understand why, think about devices that are plugged in. (which is effectively what this would be since it generates power) I've had the same computer running nearly 24/7 for about 6 years. In that time, I've replaced some batteries and bought new phones/tablets/etc due to batteries that started dying at 20% or not fully charging.
    - CyberDildonics 3y ago
      You realize this would have nothing to do with phones right? It would be for long term low energy devices. That's like saying the solar strip on a calculator would put calculator makers out of business so Big Calculator won't let it happen.