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I wish they would stop trying to force us into shared working spaces. They can make me work from home, a close office, a far office... I don't care. Just give m

I wish they would stop trying to force us into shared working spaces. They can make me work from home, a close office, a far office... I don't care. Just give me a private office and I will do my best work. At home, I don't have room for a private office, so they would need to relocate me and cover a portion of the rent for their office. I am not a contractor. I am an employee. I don't control any of my working conditions and I shouldn't have to pay out of pocket for it.

voidee 3y ago
But I love distracting people and making them unproductive!
jasonzemos 3y ago
As an anecdote, my neighbor is a crazy asshole who started blasting music and having parties at random hours; it can be problematic for sleep and productivity. Police in California are inept at stopping this. Will the company pay to send lawyers or do I have to waste my own time and money to pick up and move my whole life for something worse to be waiting at the next rental?
- sokoloff 3y ago
  What's the theory under which the company would get involved in your housing dispute?
- kvonhorn 3y ago
  > Police in California are inept at stopping this Former long time renter here. I had the same problem with neighbors in an adjacent apartment complex, and police couldn't do a damned thing except come out at 4 am and tell me, yep, we can hear that from the street. I mentioned the problem to the landlord. The landlord told me to report it to the public health department. I did. I never heard back from the health department, but the noise stopped within a few days, and the stereo blasting tenant and their onsite manager glared at me ever time I saw them afterwards.
thayne 3y ago
The biggest reason I like working from home, is because I can have a private office. The second is the absence of a commute. If I had a private office and a short commute, I would have no problem going into an office.
heleninboodler 3y ago
> I wish they would stop trying to force us into shared working spaces. They can make me work from home, a close office, a far office... I don't care. Yes. I'm pretty open to the benefits of working in an office. I had a WFH job pre-pandemic that I loved for 8 years, but when I got hired into an office job, I felt like my life changed qualitatively for the better in small ways. Socialization, lunch options, separation of work and home, etc. Nothing earth shattering, but it was ... nice for a change. Now, post-pandemic, my office job has gone "back" 3 days a week, except the experience completely sucks. They've massively downsized the office so we don't have assigned cubicles anymore; it's just all hot-desks. So you don't have your personal comforts (keyboard, chair, personal effects, stash of handy office supplies at the ready, etc), you don't know where anyone is, and every single day you have to hunt for a desk when you get to the office. There aren't enough conference rooms, people squat on the privacy booths for the entire day, the kitchen isn't well stocked anymore. If we were actually "returning" to the same office experience we had before, I could probably swallow it. Give me a fucking cubicle at the very least. As is, this crappy facsimile of office life is universally hated and I'd guess compliance with the RTO mandate is somewhere under 10%. When they start actually enforcing it, I will consider it a request to leave.

voidee 3y ago

But I love distracting people and making them unproductive!

jasonzemos 3y ago

As an anecdote, my neighbor is a crazy asshole who started blasting music and having parties at random hours; it can be problematic for sleep and productivity. Police in California are inept at stopping this. Will the company pay to send lawyers or do I have to waste my own time and money to pick up and move my whole life for something worse to be waiting at the next rental?

sokoloff 3y ago
What's the theory under which the company would get involved in your housing dispute?
kvonhorn 3y ago
> Police in California are inept at stopping this Former long time renter here. I had the same problem with neighbors in an adjacent apartment complex, and police couldn't do a damned thing except come out at 4 am and tell me, yep, we can hear that from the street. I mentioned the problem to the landlord. The landlord told me to report it to the public health department. I did. I never heard back from the health department, but the noise stopped within a few days, and the stereo blasting tenant and their onsite manager glared at me ever time I saw them afterwards.

thayne 3y ago

The biggest reason I like working from home, is because I can have a private office. The second is the absence of a commute. If I had a private office and a short commute, I would have no problem going into an office.

heleninboodler 3y ago

> I wish they would stop trying to force us into shared working spaces. They can make me work from home, a close office, a far office... I don't care. Yes. I'm pretty open to the benefits of working in an office. I had a WFH job pre-pandemic that I loved for 8 years, but when I got hired into an office job, I felt like my life changed qualitatively for the better in small ways. Socialization, lunch options, separation of work and home, etc. Nothing earth shattering, but it was ... nice for a change. Now, post-pandemic, my office job has gone "back" 3 days a week, except the experience completely sucks. They've massively downsized the office so we don't have assigned cubicles anymore; it's just all hot-desks. So you don't have your personal comforts (keyboard, chair, personal effects, stash of handy office supplies at the ready, etc), you don't know where anyone is, and every single day you have to hunt for a desk when you get to the office. There aren't enough conference rooms, people squat on the privacy booths for the entire day, the kitchen isn't well stocked anymore. If we were actually "returning" to the same office experience we had before, I could probably swallow it. Give me a fucking cubicle at the very least. As is, this crappy facsimile of office life is universally hated and I'd guess compliance with the RTO mandate is somewhere under 10%. When they start actually enforcing it, I will consider it a request to leave.