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Two days ago there was a storm that damaged some generators and left the batteries very low that they resorted to rolling blackouts, as there was not enough ele
by mathrawka 3y ago
Two days ago there was a storm that damaged some generators and left the batteries very low that they resorted to rolling blackouts, as there was not enough electricity for the island.
https://www.hawaiianelectric.com/update-rolling-oahu-outages-initiated-customers-asked-to-reduce-use-of-electricity https://www.hawaiianelectric.com/update-rolling-oahu-outages...
- Arrath 3y agoOh hey that's why my power went out!
- thowawatp302 3y agoIt doesn’t coincide, as the coal plant shut down in 2022, more than a year before this storm.
- Shatnerz 3y agoWouldn't it have to have happened after the plant shutdown in order for it to coincide? If it happened prior, then it would have been clearly unrelated. If you shut down a power plant and run into power issues down the road, a connection seems likely.
- matthewmacleod 3y agoIt literally did not coincide at all, given that the coal plant in question closed in September 2022.
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoIf they kept the coal plant operational for when solar is not viable (shocker, I know, we can’t always see the Sun), then it wouldn’t have happened. Any point after September 2022 that they suffer a lack-of-solar-based blackout directly coincides with lacking the reliability of a coal power plant.
- tivert 3y ago>> Two days ago there was a storm that damaged some generators and left the batteries very low that they resorted to rolling blackouts, as there was not enough electricity for the island. > It literally did not coincide at all, given that the coal plant in question closed in September 2022. You simply don't get it. You're oddly requiring the bad storm happen soon after the plant was closed down for there to be a connection, which is obviously not the case. One can take an action which creates a vulnerability that takes some time to finally cause a problem. You're saying something as silly as: the removal of the bolts holding in the emergency exit plug did not cause the hole in Alaska Airlines flight 1282, because the door didn't fly off immediately after the bolts were removed.
- wolfendin 3y agoOP edited their post after this reply and removed the word ‘coincide’. It’s why multiple replies have it. The original lack of capacity was caused by two malfunctioning units in a thermal plant. The capacity from this coal plant could only have allowed for one more failed unit. Weak correlation if any.
- s0rce 3y agoThat seems unrelated to the batteries, couldn't a storm damage the coal plant?
- fuhcghxd 3y agoThe storm didn’t damage the batteries, the storm just caused a needfor the energy larger then what the batteries could do
- ijhuygft776 3y agomore batteries needed...
- asdfadsfgfdda 3y agoYes a storm could damage the coal plant with some small probability. But now you have replaced the coal plant with batteries + solar. Solar will be disabled by every large storm due to cloud cover. The grid will certainly be less reliable.
- Retric 3y agoSolar isn’t disabled by every storm. You get some power even at maximum cloud cover and storms only last so long. Further it’s generally offset by increased Wind power and decreased AC usage, and can be further compensated by increased hydroelectric generation.
- DoingIsLearning 3y ago> increased Wind power It will depend on what kind of storm are we talking. Depending on wind speed, wind turbines may need to lock their gearboxes to avoid falling apart. But arguably yes, increased wind power before and after a large storm perhaps.
- Retric 3y agoModern turbines can adjust the angle of their blades to extract less energy from the wind. There’s always tradeoffs so people still chose maximum wind speeds based on the area. But, we’re talking being near the center of a hurricane not just storms at that point.