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>Before you join in, just watch the video! I watched the video. It was even worse than I expected.

by cdchn 3y ago

belter 3y ago
I had to watch three times and I am still not sure if its not an episode of "The Office"...
- wolverine876 3y ago
  To shift tacks, that's the sort of response I was talking about in the root comment. It's all about having fun flexing ridicule (the contempt and shame I was talking about earlier). I understand that it's for laughs - and I got some enjoyment your comment - but I also think it tends to cross over into 'real life'. It's used (maybe not by the parent, but by many) as a substitute for actually examining the merits, being open-minded, curious, learning. Under these social 'rules', if we can ridicule it, shame it, that's the end of the discussion. It crowds out people who are atypical, and who are inventive and challenging the norms and the estabilishmen (in whatever place they are). It creates a very conservative culture. To riff on: I think people have become much less expressive, much more afraid of ridicule, as social media has enveloped our lives. When the whole world wouldn't see, it didn't matter much if you took a chance with how you dressed that day.
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  - davidgerard 3y ago
    Have you considered that perhaps, just perhaps, it's a bad, inept and tone deaf video that is absolutely correct to ridicule? It's a possible interpretation!
    - wolverine876 3y ago
      > correct to ridicule What does 'correct' mean here, and what makes something 'correct to ridicule'? Other than when it's harmless, I think ridicule is toxic. It's an appeal to toxic emotions and interactions, and that spreads to other things, and especially in today's culture, it's a disease that we need to be careful about inflaming. Also, it fails to look at merits - almost the point of ridicule is to avoid that, which will lead to many mistakes, much harm, and closes the door on much innovation.
      - davidgerard 3y ago
        Because "One horse-laugh is worth ten thousand syllogisms" - H. L. Mencken. If you don't understand that, I can't help you.
        wolverine876 3y ago
        So you have no response to my arguments? I tend to assume that when I see someone using ridicule - they have nothing substantial to say.
        fzeroracer 3y ago
        Your entire argument has been dismissing concerns about the video and then offering nothing of substance other than 'ridicule is bad'. In effect all of your comments here have offered the least amount of substance other than attempting to divert discussion away from how bad the video actually is, which is saying 'come to the office now or you're fired' with a nice bow on top.
        cdchn 3y ago
        What even is comedy?
      - cdchn 3y ago
        >what makes something 'correct to ridicule'? In comedy I think the best litmus test is "punching up/down." I think riffing on a brand conglomerate's HR video could be considered "punching up."
- cdchn 3y ago
  I fear I'm going to get flamed for this asking this, but I am curious in the most genuine way, and I'm not trying to make fun of someone's medical condition but... Is the CEO a stroke victim?

>Before you join in, just watch the video! I watched the video. It was even worse than I expected.

by cdchn 3y ago

>Before you join in, just watch the video! I watched the video. It was even worse than I expected.

belter 3y ago

I had to watch three times and I am still not sure if its not an episode of "The Office"...

wolverine876 3y ago
To shift tacks, that's the sort of response I was talking about in the root comment. It's all about having fun flexing ridicule (the contempt and shame I was talking about earlier). I understand that it's for laughs - and I got some enjoyment your comment - but I also think it tends to cross over into 'real life'. It's used (maybe not by the parent, but by many) as a substitute for actually examining the merits, being open-minded, curious, learning. Under these social 'rules', if we can ridicule it, shame it, that's the end of the discussion. It crowds out people who are atypical, and who are inventive and challenging the norms and the estabilishmen (in whatever place they are). It creates a very conservative culture. To riff on: I think people have become much less expressive, much more afraid of ridicule, as social media has enveloped our lives. When the whole world wouldn't see, it didn't matter much if you took a chance with how you dressed that day.
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- davidgerard 3y ago
  Have you considered that perhaps, just perhaps, it's a bad, inept and tone deaf video that is absolutely correct to ridicule? It's a possible interpretation!
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    > correct to ridicule What does 'correct' mean here, and what makes something 'correct to ridicule'? Other than when it's harmless, I think ridicule is toxic. It's an appeal to toxic emotions and interactions, and that spreads to other things, and especially in today's culture, it's a disease that we need to be careful about inflaming. Also, it fails to look at merits - almost the point of ridicule is to avoid that, which will lead to many mistakes, much harm, and closes the door on much innovation.
    - davidgerard 3y ago
      Because "One horse-laugh is worth ten thousand syllogisms" - H. L. Mencken. If you don't understand that, I can't help you.
      - wolverine876 3y ago
        So you have no response to my arguments? I tend to assume that when I see someone using ridicule - they have nothing substantial to say.
        fzeroracer 3y ago
        Your entire argument has been dismissing concerns about the video and then offering nothing of substance other than 'ridicule is bad'. In effect all of your comments here have offered the least amount of substance other than attempting to divert discussion away from how bad the video actually is, which is saying 'come to the office now or you're fired' with a nice bow on top.
      - cdchn 3y ago
        What even is comedy?
    - cdchn 3y ago
      >what makes something 'correct to ridicule'? In comedy I think the best litmus test is "punching up/down." I think riffing on a brand conglomerate's HR video could be considered "punching up."
cdchn 3y ago
I fear I'm going to get flamed for this asking this, but I am curious in the most genuine way, and I'm not trying to make fun of someone's medical condition but... Is the CEO a stroke victim?