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You're confusing things. The real gains qua WL from exercise are what is lost from resting metabolic rate, not calories burned "during" exercise. Also: satiety,

You're confusing things. The real gains qua WL from exercise are what is lost from resting metabolic rate, not calories burned "during" exercise. Also: satiety, and other health benefits that have an impact. > There's no studies or evidence whatsoever that shows it has a meaningful impact on weight loss. Absolutely not true. > Weight loss comes from what you put in (or rather don't). It's energy balance. But just as increasing satiety helps (through food choices), exercise is a strong predictor of long-term WL success. > This write-up from 2016 references 60 studies and meta-analysis which all show the same. You're quoting a vox article, and it's making the aforementioned erroneous conflation about calories burned during exercise.

arcticbull 3y ago
> Absolutely not true. Please cite a study that shows that exercise results in long-term sustained, clinically meaningful (>5%) weight loss. I have looked extensively and found none. And that's not for a lack of extant studies. > It's energy balance. But just as increasing satiety helps (through food choices), exercise is a strong predictor of long-term WL success. As far as I can see, there aren't any successful long-term (>2y) weight loss studies that don't involve GLP-1s or bariatric surgery, so maybe that's where the issue lies. > You're quoting a vox article, and it's making the aforementioned erroneous conflation about calories burned during exercise. I don't think it is, I looked over the studies they link to, but I'm open to being wrong. I don't really have a horse in this race.
- slothtrop 3y ago
  > Please cite a study that shows that exercise results in long-term sustained, clinically meaningful (>5%) weight loss Those are not the words I used. Please engage in good faith. More accurately: exercise in addition to energy balance (and with a modest caloric deficit) is a strong predictor of WL success. Check google scholar for meta reviews, I don't have this bookmarked and I'm not doing homework for you. If you don't want to believe me then don't. I recommend Layne Norton's book Fat Loss Forever and his yt channel, he cites studies there.
  - arcticbull 3y ago
    I’ve done plenty of research and have not found a study that backs your position. If you’d like to have a discussion in good faith I’d like you to present some data. I did my research and presented my data. I don’t need to do your work for you. But if you dig something up I will happily read it.

arcticbull 3y ago

> Absolutely not true. Please cite a study that shows that exercise results in long-term sustained, clinically meaningful (>5%) weight loss. I have looked extensively and found none. And that's not for a lack of extant studies. > It's energy balance. But just as increasing satiety helps (through food choices), exercise is a strong predictor of long-term WL success. As far as I can see, there aren't any successful long-term (>2y) weight loss studies that don't involve GLP-1s or bariatric surgery, so maybe that's where the issue lies. > You're quoting a vox article, and it's making the aforementioned erroneous conflation about calories burned during exercise. I don't think it is, I looked over the studies they link to, but I'm open to being wrong. I don't really have a horse in this race.

slothtrop 3y ago
> Please cite a study that shows that exercise results in long-term sustained, clinically meaningful (>5%) weight loss Those are not the words I used. Please engage in good faith. More accurately: exercise in addition to energy balance (and with a modest caloric deficit) is a strong predictor of WL success. Check google scholar for meta reviews, I don't have this bookmarked and I'm not doing homework for you. If you don't want to believe me then don't. I recommend Layne Norton's book Fat Loss Forever and his yt channel, he cites studies there.
- arcticbull 3y ago
  I’ve done plenty of research and have not found a study that backs your position. If you’d like to have a discussion in good faith I’d like you to present some data. I did my research and presented my data. I don’t need to do your work for you. But if you dig something up I will happily read it.