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alright. landing page looks great. apple drama was unfortunate but got resolved. i'd like the HN take on the downsides that they are maybe not being upfront ab

by swyx 3y ago

alright. landing page looks great. apple drama was unfortunate but got resolved. i'd like the HN take on the downsides that they are maybe not being upfront about? Hey Email was notably a one way deal, you could import mail but you couldn't export it (something to do with the file formats? idk). whats the catch with Hey Calendar? does it mirror my gcal well so that i can leave if i want? i did try Hey in the early days, but ultimately the slowness of the app turned me back to Superhuman.

cpuguy83 3y ago
Pretty much same catch as the mail, its one way. You use their client (or I guess reverse-engineer their API's) and that's it. iCloud calendar integration is read-only (because it is a read-only subscription and not actually authenticating or anything). It also doesn't solve any of the problems I have with calendars... mainly that I have to manage multiple where I'd like to have events be synced (to varying degree) across them. It also introduces new problems... that I can't use my preferred calendar client which has features that Hey does not that I use all the time (such as hiding events).
- partdavid 3y ago
  "to varying degrees" Very much agree with this. I kind of crave some kind of configurable advanced workflow around calendar categorization, membership, visibility, etc. For example, I want to accept a prompt to create a calendar event from a doctor's office reminder, and I want that shared with certain personal contacts (my spouse) but I want it to show up as "busy" in my work calendar--without my work calendar service knowing the details. I want to be prompted to provide a travel time buffer around it so I don't get scheduled for a meeting before and after my event; when the time comes, I want to be notified about the personal calendar entry but not by the work calendar. This is one example but I feel like these calendar-juggling operations are actually pretty common use-cases these days, besides integrating between iCloud/Gcal calendar users and "arbitrary calendars" like Yahoo or some other calendar thing. Co-parenting with an ex-spouse brought up a whole bunch of other "sync to some degree but not naïvely" use-cases, too. And there's professional use-cases where I'm setting up job search interviews and need to block time on my work calendar(s) but not reveal details.
frankjr 3y ago
> apple drama was unfortunate but got resolved. Was it unfortunate? I think it was absolutely amazing marketing wise. And considering that they got briefly rejected for the exact same reason like last time...

by swyx 3y ago

cpuguy83 3y ago

Pretty much same catch as the mail, its one way. You use their client (or I guess reverse-engineer their API's) and that's it. iCloud calendar integration is read-only (because it is a read-only subscription and not actually authenticating or anything). It also doesn't solve any of the problems I have with calendars... mainly that I have to manage multiple where I'd like to have events be synced (to varying degree) across them. It also introduces new problems... that I can't use my preferred calendar client which has features that Hey does not that I use all the time (such as hiding events).

partdavid 3y ago
"to varying degrees" Very much agree with this. I kind of crave some kind of configurable advanced workflow around calendar categorization, membership, visibility, etc. For example, I want to accept a prompt to create a calendar event from a doctor's office reminder, and I want that shared with certain personal contacts (my spouse) but I want it to show up as "busy" in my work calendar--without my work calendar service knowing the details. I want to be prompted to provide a travel time buffer around it so I don't get scheduled for a meeting before and after my event; when the time comes, I want to be notified about the personal calendar entry but not by the work calendar. This is one example but I feel like these calendar-juggling operations are actually pretty common use-cases these days, besides integrating between iCloud/Gcal calendar users and "arbitrary calendars" like Yahoo or some other calendar thing. Co-parenting with an ex-spouse brought up a whole bunch of other "sync to some degree but not naïvely" use-cases, too. And there's professional use-cases where I'm setting up job search interviews and need to block time on my work calendar(s) but not reveal details.

frankjr 3y ago

> apple drama was unfortunate but got resolved. Was it unfortunate? I think it was absolutely amazing marketing wise. And considering that they got briefly rejected for the exact same reason like last time...