> Again , what changed since 2008? Why is this worse now? Because of 16 more years of a downwards trend. > were parents any better 50 years ago? Probably not

> Again , what changed since 2008? Why is this worse now? Because of 16 more years of a downwards trend. > were parents any better 50 years ago? Probably not, but they didn't have iPads to give. They were probably as bad as now, but maybe pointing to better or higher standards. Since we're using generalisations here, I'd risk saying that generally speaking (in my view of South-Western Europe), a few decades ago it was less possible/socially accepted to become a 30-year-old useless bum. Nowadays I'm no longer surprised about having a conversation with a 20-something-year-old and finding out he doesn't quite understand the idea of the need to work in order to survive, let alone provide. Of course, these are generalisations, but I'm afraid they are increasingly becoming indicatives of how things are.