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Yesterday I learned that Bosnian 1992 independence referendum where a second largest community has refused to participate and the remaining ones are told to hav
by thriftwy 3y ago
Yesterday I learned that Bosnian 1992 independence referendum where a second largest community has refused to participate and the remaining ones are told to have voted 99.7% "Yes" is considered democratic. Of course that plunged them right into the civil war, but it does not seem that anybody has reflected on that.
What's the problem with solid majority of citizens deciding they don't want any more refugees then? Poland actually ran referendums like that and got 95% of "no thanks".
- hef19898 3y agoReducing the Balkan Wars to a single referendum in a single country is so simplistic, I'd even call it ignorant. But since you are on the journey of learning about all of this, continue. Use Wikipedia for startes, and not some other sources a quick search turns up so.
- thriftwy 3y agoBut hey, The Guardian does not see any reason to not be ignorant: > The declaration of Republika Srpska in January 1992 triggered a civil war and a campaign of ethnic cleansing of Muslims and Croats, in which 100,000 people died.
- hef19898 3y agoTo quote another war that started at the Balkans: The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914 trigger World War 1. Factually correct, but missing a ton context, up to the point that small bit of information is basically useless in understanding the issue.
- thriftwy 3y agoВот плачут дед и баба, но напрасно - Всё предначертано, яйцо должно разбиться. Зло порождает зло в наш век ужасный. Ты хочешь знать, чем эта сказка завершится? Старуху ту Раскольников зарубит, И не со зла, причём, так по сюжету надо. Старик же, пьянством горе усугубив, Эрцгерцога застрелит Фердинанда.
- hef19898 3y agoIs this a close translation? >> Grandfather and grandmother are crying, but in vain Everything is preordained, the egg must break. Evil begets evil in our terrible age. Do you want to know how this fairy tale will end? Raskolnikov will cut down that old woman, And not out of malice, and that's the way it should be according to the plot. And the old man, having aggravated his grief by drunkenness, The Archduke will shoot Ferdinand. Because the Archduke Franz Ferdinand didn't shoot anyone, he was the one being shot... Nice poem so!
- pi-e-sigma 3y agoConsidered 'democratic' only by countries that liked the outcome. Referendum for independence in the Catalonia? Not democratic, and illegal according to the West. Referendum for Kosovo independence? Absolutely democratic in the West, a sham according to Russia. Crimea referendum to join Russia? You start seeing the pattern?
- lupusreal 3y agoBoycotting elections/etc is always stupid. This is how the Soviet Union allowed the Korean War to start with the UN officially involved on behalf of South Korea, despite the Soviet Union being a member of the UN Security Council who could have vetoed it. They were boycotting the UN and so neglected to veto it. They certainly learned their lesson though, and won't make that mistake again.