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>"No, you need to enter your name in kanji. Of course, everyone has a kanji name, right?" Do they actually block hiragana and katakana? If they do that's proba
by Dalewyn 3y ago
>"No, you need to enter your name in kanji. Of course, everyone has a kanji name, right?"
Do they actually block hiragana and katakana? If they do that's probably grounds to sue.
>refusing half-width roman characters
With maybe the exception of arabic numerals, Japanese is nearly always written in full/monospace width. This is not unlike how English is nearly always written in half/proportional width.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
- pezezin 3y ago> With maybe the exception of arabic numerals, Japanese is nearly always written in full/monospace width. This is not unlike how English is nearly always written in half/proportional width. The half-width/full-width distinction is a hold-over from the DOS era when all fonts where monospaced. It doesn't have a place nowadays and should have never be included in Unicode, just change the font or use a better text rendering algorithm.
- bschwindHN 3y ago> Do they actually block hiragana and katakana? If they do that's probably grounds to sue. I don't have evidence at the ready, but I remember interacting with websites which complained about receiving katakana for both the name and カナ field for your name. > With maybe the exception of arabic numerals, Japanese is nearly always written in full/monospace width. This is not unlike how English is nearly always written in half/proportional width Yes, I'm fine with them using it. But they could put in a _little_ bit of work for me and convert my half-width characters to full-width, as the good websites here do.
- Dalewyn 3y agoThe kana field is for indicating how the name is read (remember, kanji can be read in many ways), and consequently how the name should be indexed and sorted inside databases and other data stores. If the field wanted only either hiragana or katakana (remember, it wants a simple reading guide) and complained, I'm not necessarily surprised.
- bschwindHN 3y agoI'm specifically talking about the kanji field, not the kana field. If your name doesn't have kanji (which mine doesn't), you can really only enter katakana. And I've encountered forms which refuse katakana for that field, and which also refuses half-width or full-width roman characters. What do you do at that point?
- Dalewyn 3y agoI would just enter hiragana and move on with my day, and if that doesn't work I would just pick arbitrary kanji using standard readings to roughly spell out my name (this practice is known as 当て字, ateji). It's not my problem they have to deal with malformed data if that's all they will accept.
- ytch 3y ago> Do they actually block hiragana and katakana? If they do that's probably grounds to sue. many websites in Japan has two name field: one is kanji, another is katakana. https://shinkabukiza.pia.jp/membmng/RegisterNormalAction.do https://shinkabukiza.pia.jp/membmng/RegisterNormalAction.do Take this for example, the field in first row is full-width kanji, second one is full-width katakana.
- Dalewyn 3y agoThe お名前 (onamae) field is for your name as written in Japanese normally, and it should take any of kanji, hiragana, or katakana as appropriate so long as it is 全角 (full width) and the programmer didn't screw up. The フリガナ (furigana) field is to indicate how the name given above is read, because kanji can have many readings including completely arbitrary ones. This also serves to indicate how computers should index and sort the names when storing and processing them, so it's still applicable even if the name is all hiragana or katakana and immediately obvious. Furigana is also used to indicate how to read kanji in ordinary text, oftentimes when dealing with rare kanji or special readings, when the text must be comprehensible by everyone (eg: emergency bulletins), or when the text is written for people learning Japanese (eg: school textbooks). Furigana is usually written using hiragana, so the reason 全角カタカナ (full width katakana) is specified instead of just full width is to inform the form's filer that he shouldn't write hiragana like he otherwise probably would.
- qingcharles 3y agoDoes a lot of that come from the fact that names can use kanji outside of the common 2000+ Jōyō kanji? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%8Dy%C5%8D_kanji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%8Dy%C5%8D_kanji Is it common to come across names using kanji outside that range? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinmeiy%C5%8D_kanji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinmeiy%C5%8D_kanji
- Macha 3y agoThat's one part but another is names that use kyuujitai (pre-simplified kanji forms) or names that use unusual readings because if you're named after your father's (father's father's....) name then the pronunciation of your name might not have evolved the same way the reading of the kanji has in actual words. Also regional uses that get replaced by standardised uses in words but not names. Or someone just made it up generations ago and it caught on. Or your ancestor didn't know how to write and just picked a kanji they thought was right. Even in English this happens, look at all the variations of Robert (Rob, Bob, Robb, Robbie, Bobbie, ...) or similar names.