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This still happens regularly in Japan (and elsewhere I'm sure). "Enter your name" -Okay here's my name "No, you need to enter your name in kanji. Of cours

This still happens regularly in Japan (and elsewhere I'm sure). "Enter your name" -Okay here's my name "No, you need to enter your name in kanji. Of course, everyone has a kanji name, right?" That, along with refusing half-width roman characters, requiring them to be full-width and all that kinda shit. Basically stating up front on their own website that they suck at programming.

fusslo 3y ago
I wonder if a kanji name is a legally recognized name. Like, I don't know kanji, could I just pick random characters that end up being nonsense? or will I get in trouble interesting anecdote
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- adelie 3y ago
  you can't really have a 'nonsense' name - there's a list of around 3000 characters you're allowed to use in names, but in theory, you can put together whatever you want. you'll just get side-eyed for having a weird name, that's all. that being said, i think most of these websites that ask for a kanji name will require you to show ID with that name when you show up in person, so you might run into trouble if you just pick random characters.
  - SenHeng 3y ago
    There are only 3000 legal kanji characters. But people have started naming their children in hiragana and katakana. Still no romaji allowed. Yet.
- kansai 3y ago
  You can register a legal alias (通称名) that you can use on forms. I know people who have done this with just single a single kanji to avoid a lot of the headache associated with having a foreign name or (god forbid) a middle name. I've considered a few times registering my legal alias as 一一 to have a two stroke full name.
- numpad0 3y ago
  Rather, only kanji name is legally recognized so random sequence is technically possible. But that'll just throw exceptions everywhere.
Tor3 3y ago
Wife (Japanese) couldn't enter her name into a web form for a Japanese hotel (had to go directly to the hotel because of some booking.com problems at the time). It had to do with half-width vs full-width, but we couldn't figure it out even though she's Japanese and her PC is Japanese. In the end we had to do a long-distance phone call. But Japanese banks at least has a system which mostly solves at least those problems - everyone's name is written in Katakana.
- bschwindHN 3y ago
  Japanese hotel websites are probably the worst offenders. I refuse to use them anymore and only book through hotel aggregators. They are straight up horrible. > But Japanese banks at least has a system which mostly solves at least those problems - everyone's name is written in Katakana. That's workable, though I still remember seeing banks with comically short character limits for names.
  - vsnf 3y ago
    You should see the password requirements. Shinsei Bank hardcaps your password at 10 characters.
    - criddell 3y ago
      Which probably means they are storing your password rather than a hash of the password. I complained about this to my bank when I found out they stored passwords and their response was "don't worry about it - you aren't responsible for fraud".
      - vkou 3y ago
        > I complained about this to my bank when I found out they stored passwords and their response was "don't worry about it - you aren't responsible for fraud". I'd much rather live in a world where banks are idiots with passwords and I'm not responsible for fraud, than a world where I'm expected to be not an idiot with my passwords, and I were responsible for fraud. Every day, I count my lucky stars.
Dalewyn 3y ago
>"No, you need to enter your name in kanji. Of course, everyone has a kanji name, right?" Do they actually block hiragana and katakana? If they do that's probably grounds to sue. >refusing half-width roman characters With maybe the exception of arabic numerals, Japanese is nearly always written in full/monospace width. This is not unlike how English is nearly always written in half/proportional width. When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
- pezezin 3y ago
  > With maybe the exception of arabic numerals, Japanese is nearly always written in full/monospace width. This is not unlike how English is nearly always written in half/proportional width. The half-width/full-width distinction is a hold-over from the DOS era when all fonts where monospaced. It doesn't have a place nowadays and should have never be included in Unicode, just change the font or use a better text rendering algorithm.
  - SenHeng 3y ago
    What makes you think they're not still using DOS?
    - pezezin 3y ago
      xD Nah, it's probably some Japan-only ancient mainframe OS with Shit-JIS over EBCDIC.
  - numpad0 3y ago
    full-widths has its places in vertical texts!
- bschwindHN 3y ago
  > Do they actually block hiragana and katakana? If they do that's probably grounds to sue. I don't have evidence at the ready, but I remember interacting with websites which complained about receiving katakana for both the name and カナ field for your name. > With maybe the exception of arabic numerals, Japanese is nearly always written in full/monospace width. This is not unlike how English is nearly always written in half/proportional width Yes, I'm fine with them using it. But they could put in a _little_ bit of work for me and convert my half-width characters to full-width, as the good websites here do.
grose 3y ago
I live in Japan and this happens to me all the time. My name is too long to fit in most forms so I have to drop the middle name (which isn’t really a thing here, they consider it as part of my first name), and then they get mad at me because it doesn’t match my ID exactly. I’ve had to redo forms because I didn’t write my name in all caps like the resident card. I’ve had medical ID cards from hospitals that chop my name halfway off and the staff wrote the rest with a marker. It’s a mess.
- bschwindHN 3y ago
  Some people just can't fathom it when the name doesn't exactly match, no critical thinking is allowed in those cases. "Hmmm, your ID card says 'Christian Joseph Anderson' but our records show 'Anderson Joseph Chri', are you trying to pull a fast one on us???"
  - xnzakg 3y ago
    > Some people just can't fathom it when the name doesn't exactly match, no critical thinking is allowed in those cases. In my experience computers are the bigger issue. A human can think outside the box in a way a `strcmp` can't.
    - aristus 3y ago
      You might be surprised. I spent a long time carefully and politely explaining to an immigration case officer that "Firstname NMN Lastname" meant, in fact, that there was No Middle Name and not that there was a middle name cryptically encoded as NMN.
    - pixl97 3y ago
      >A human can think outside the box in a way a `strcmp` can't. Computer says no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n_Ty_72Qds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n_Ty_72Qds --- A human can do many things, but never underestimate the power of the system (Hello Moloch) to remove said creative abilities from humans. Also never underestimate how creatively stupid humans can be.
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avgcorrection 3y ago
I would have used the only Kanji I know: :). I guess I might end up with a fair few name siblings huh.

fusslo 3y ago

I wonder if a kanji name is a legally recognized name. Like, I don't know kanji, could I just pick random characters that end up being nonsense? or will I get in trouble interesting anecdote

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adelie 3y ago
you can't really have a 'nonsense' name - there's a list of around 3000 characters you're allowed to use in names, but in theory, you can put together whatever you want. you'll just get side-eyed for having a weird name, that's all. that being said, i think most of these websites that ask for a kanji name will require you to show ID with that name when you show up in person, so you might run into trouble if you just pick random characters.
- SenHeng 3y ago
  There are only 3000 legal kanji characters. But people have started naming their children in hiragana and katakana. Still no romaji allowed. Yet.
kansai 3y ago
You can register a legal alias (通称名) that you can use on forms. I know people who have done this with just single a single kanji to avoid a lot of the headache associated with having a foreign name or (god forbid) a middle name. I've considered a few times registering my legal alias as 一一 to have a two stroke full name.
numpad0 3y ago
Rather, only kanji name is legally recognized so random sequence is technically possible. But that'll just throw exceptions everywhere.

Tor3 3y ago

Wife (Japanese) couldn't enter her name into a web form for a Japanese hotel (had to go directly to the hotel because of some booking.com problems at the time). It had to do with half-width vs full-width, but we couldn't figure it out even though she's Japanese and her PC is Japanese. In the end we had to do a long-distance phone call. But Japanese banks at least has a system which mostly solves at least those problems - everyone's name is written in Katakana.

bschwindHN 3y ago
Japanese hotel websites are probably the worst offenders. I refuse to use them anymore and only book through hotel aggregators. They are straight up horrible. > But Japanese banks at least has a system which mostly solves at least those problems - everyone's name is written in Katakana. That's workable, though I still remember seeing banks with comically short character limits for names.
- vsnf 3y ago
  You should see the password requirements. Shinsei Bank hardcaps your password at 10 characters.
  - criddell 3y ago
    Which probably means they are storing your password rather than a hash of the password. I complained about this to my bank when I found out they stored passwords and their response was "don't worry about it - you aren't responsible for fraud".
    - vkou 3y ago
      > I complained about this to my bank when I found out they stored passwords and their response was "don't worry about it - you aren't responsible for fraud". I'd much rather live in a world where banks are idiots with passwords and I'm not responsible for fraud, than a world where I'm expected to be not an idiot with my passwords, and I were responsible for fraud. Every day, I count my lucky stars.

Dalewyn 3y ago

>"No, you need to enter your name in kanji. Of course, everyone has a kanji name, right?" Do they actually block hiragana and katakana? If they do that's probably grounds to sue. >refusing half-width roman characters With maybe the exception of arabic numerals, Japanese is nearly always written in full/monospace width. This is not unlike how English is nearly always written in half/proportional width. When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

pezezin 3y ago
> With maybe the exception of arabic numerals, Japanese is nearly always written in full/monospace width. This is not unlike how English is nearly always written in half/proportional width. The half-width/full-width distinction is a hold-over from the DOS era when all fonts where monospaced. It doesn't have a place nowadays and should have never be included in Unicode, just change the font or use a better text rendering algorithm.
- SenHeng 3y ago
  What makes you think they're not still using DOS?
  - pezezin 3y ago
    xD Nah, it's probably some Japan-only ancient mainframe OS with Shit-JIS over EBCDIC.
- numpad0 3y ago
  full-widths has its places in vertical texts!
bschwindHN 3y ago
> Do they actually block hiragana and katakana? If they do that's probably grounds to sue. I don't have evidence at the ready, but I remember interacting with websites which complained about receiving katakana for both the name and カナ field for your name. > With maybe the exception of arabic numerals, Japanese is nearly always written in full/monospace width. This is not unlike how English is nearly always written in half/proportional width Yes, I'm fine with them using it. But they could put in a _little_ bit of work for me and convert my half-width characters to full-width, as the good websites here do.

grose 3y ago

I live in Japan and this happens to me all the time. My name is too long to fit in most forms so I have to drop the middle name (which isn’t really a thing here, they consider it as part of my first name), and then they get mad at me because it doesn’t match my ID exactly. I’ve had to redo forms because I didn’t write my name in all caps like the resident card. I’ve had medical ID cards from hospitals that chop my name halfway off and the staff wrote the rest with a marker. It’s a mess.

bschwindHN 3y ago
Some people just can't fathom it when the name doesn't exactly match, no critical thinking is allowed in those cases. "Hmmm, your ID card says 'Christian Joseph Anderson' but our records show 'Anderson Joseph Chri', are you trying to pull a fast one on us???"
- xnzakg 3y ago
  > Some people just can't fathom it when the name doesn't exactly match, no critical thinking is allowed in those cases. In my experience computers are the bigger issue. A human can think outside the box in a way a `strcmp` can't.
  - aristus 3y ago
    You might be surprised. I spent a long time carefully and politely explaining to an immigration case officer that "Firstname NMN Lastname" meant, in fact, that there was No Middle Name and not that there was a middle name cryptically encoded as NMN.
  - pixl97 3y ago
    >A human can think outside the box in a way a `strcmp` can't. Computer says no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n_Ty_72Qds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n_Ty_72Qds --- A human can do many things, but never underestimate the power of the system (Hello Moloch) to remove said creative abilities from humans. Also never underestimate how creatively stupid humans can be.
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avgcorrection 3y ago

I would have used the only Kanji I know: :). I guess I might end up with a fair few name siblings huh.