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The increase in depression numbers might be a rational reaction to the current environment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Never_to_Have_Been https://en.
by cf1241290841 3y ago
The increase in depression numbers might be a rational reaction to the current environment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Never_to_Have_Been https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Never_to_Have_Been
- ativzzz 3y agoThis is why for pretty much the majority of human history, we had some form of religion to trick ourselves into ignoring this. Now that religion is on a decline...
- stainablesteel 3y agoreligion gave purpose, it didn't hide a lack thereof people need purpose not to hide from the truth, they need religion and purpose to embrace it
- cf1241290841 3y agoThere is no story or belief that can justify unethical behavior.
- stainablesteel 3y agoyou think existing is unethical?
- cf1241290841 3y agoNot sure how you got to this conclusion from the initial post. My point was condemning somebody to existence in this world is.
- stainablesteel 3y agothat's even more insane
- cf1241290841 3y agoI dont think you can argue your position without reverting to a sunken cost fallacy or an ideological ignorance of the amount of suffering inflicted through simple existence, even in the best of circumstances. If you want to argue that suicide is always an option, let me remind you that this is how the Romans justified the conditions of slavery. I could always be wrong here, but i dont think you are able to explain how. To put it bluntly, fanatics never can. Or want to because they prefer feeling right. Pls do explain how i am wrong here.
- cf1241290841 3y agoIf you truly believe to know something i dont, i would hope you had responded. This way it looks like you prefer feeling right over being right.
- bratbag 3y agoDepression is not a rational response though, is it? It's an irrational response that persists even when there is no reason to be unhappy. That's why I give little credence to ideas like those in your link. I don't consider the worldview of depressed people to be valuable to my own life experience.
- cf1241290841 3y agoDepressive realism might be. And there is no ethical way for me to argue for that. My link is also not arguing for being depressed. Once you are here, by all means make the best of it. But to give you all a flashback to sex ed, do the right thing and use a condom.
- vjk800 3y ago> It's an irrational response that persists even when there is no reason to be unhappy. What if there is? Generally, we are not very good at judging what makes us happy. Happiness research points to things that many of us are indeed missing in life: physical activity, social connectedness, interacting with nature. The reason for unhappiness might also be internal; bad diet, lack of exercise, etc. throws your body's hormones off-balance, making you feel like crap and causing, quite predictably, unhappiness.
- InSteady 3y agoLet's not conflate unhappiness with depression. Many a depressed person who has tried can tell you that exercise, social contact, and immaculate diet do not cure depression. They can certainly help a bit sometimes, just like not punching yourself in the face every day while you have a broken leg helps with the pain and makes recovery go more smoothly. But it is not a solution to the underlying problems in many cases. These things are important to everyone's wellbeing, but there are many, many people who eat like crap and don't exercise who are not clinically depressed. And there are plenty of people living with depression despite being disciplined in these important lifestyle choices.
- cf1241290841 3y agoWhich you can change. I was talking more about the overall circumstances you cant change.