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The discussion, as I understood it, was about contrasting dramatic reenactments using actors with using digital recreations (i.e. "what makes these two techniqu

The discussion, as I understood it, was about contrasting dramatic reenactments using actors with using digital recreations (i.e. "what makes these two techniques different?"). danbruc was talking about how the digital recreation in the news recently was inaccurate. I was questioning if that mattered, since I wasn't so much contrasting paid actors with that specific case but instead with what new technology now allows and what YouTube is probably trying to prevent with their policy.

danbruc 3y ago
I was specifically replying to the following part. A paid actor may look similar to a victim, but not exactly. Their image will evoke a totally different emotion from the victim's friends and family. In that specific case the digital recreation - if you can even call it that - was quite off and far from depicting what the real victim looked like. It would certainly have been possible to do an reenactment which more closely matched what the actual victim looked like. Therefore I think any argument along the lines that an exact digital recreation might evoke feelings that a reenactment could not does - at least in this specific case - not apply. Otherwise I have really no opinion on the entire matter. Putting children into an oven is certainly in the range of things that you could find in horror movies. Context of course matters and also the presentation and intention and target audience, but I just do not know anything besides skimming three articles about this phenomenon to properly judge this.
- kragen 3y ago
  > Putting children into an oven is certainly in the range of things that you could find in horror movies or for that matter popular children's fairy tales
  - dotancohen 3y ago
    I hate to say this, but just three months ago children that I knew were burned alive. And a baby was found burned in an oven, apparently stuffed in there such that the heating element mark was visible on its body. These things happen not only in horror movies. They happen today, in real life.
    - kragen 3y ago
      i'm sorry to hear that, and i am well aware that they happen today in real life, but what we were discussing in this subthread is not to what extent they are real, but rather to what extent fictional depiction of them is seen as socially acceptable

danbruc 3y ago

I was specifically replying to the following part. A paid actor may look similar to a victim, but not exactly. Their image will evoke a totally different emotion from the victim's friends and family. In that specific case the digital recreation - if you can even call it that - was quite off and far from depicting what the real victim looked like. It would certainly have been possible to do an reenactment which more closely matched what the actual victim looked like. Therefore I think any argument along the lines that an exact digital recreation might evoke feelings that a reenactment could not does - at least in this specific case - not apply. Otherwise I have really no opinion on the entire matter. Putting children into an oven is certainly in the range of things that you could find in horror movies. Context of course matters and also the presentation and intention and target audience, but I just do not know anything besides skimming three articles about this phenomenon to properly judge this.

kragen 3y ago
> Putting children into an oven is certainly in the range of things that you could find in horror movies or for that matter popular children's fairy tales
- dotancohen 3y ago
  I hate to say this, but just three months ago children that I knew were burned alive. And a baby was found burned in an oven, apparently stuffed in there such that the heating element mark was visible on its body. These things happen not only in horror movies. They happen today, in real life.
  - kragen 3y ago
    i'm sorry to hear that, and i am well aware that they happen today in real life, but what we were discussing in this subthread is not to what extent they are real, but rather to what extent fictional depiction of them is seen as socially acceptable