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Also I'd contact your favorite airlines and demand that they retire their MAX planes. https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/airline-consumer-contacts http

Also I'd contact your favorite airlines and demand that they retire their MAX planes. https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/airline-consumer-contacts https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/airline-consumer-...

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> I'd contact your favorite airlines and demand that they retire their MAX planes This isn't happening. Demand would swell well before price cuts made those planes uneconomical.
cameldrv 3y ago
The 737MAX is not going away. There are about 1400 of them flying and another 6000 orders. Boeing obviously has some serious quality problems that need to get fixed, but since the grounding in 2019, the MAX has done something like 1.5 million flights with no fatalities. This is worth fixing, but it's not dangerous enough to change your travel plans. You're way more likely to die from COVID you caught on the plane than because the plane was unsafe.
- justinclift 3y ago
  > it's not dangerous enough to change your travel plans. They keep having new critical safety issues. :( That latest one only didn't end up with fatalities due to luck, it could just as easily have gone the other way.
  - cameldrv 3y ago
    Absolutely. There have been several airline explosive decompressions in the past 50 years. The fatal ones have each had one fatality, even with crazy damage to the plane (look up Aloha 243) If you figure this incident "should" have had one fatality, if you figure 100 passengers per flight, that's a 1/150,000,000 chance of dying. Your odds of death are way worse on the drive to the airport than from this.
    - justinclift 3y ago
      k, now calculate the odds for "737 Max series planes" vs the rest, then make your choice. ;)
      - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
        > calculate the odds for "737 Max series planes" Those planes have also flown millions of miles without incident. This is a low-frequency statistics game; the signal is presently constrained to the type 9.
    - account42 3y ago
      > There have been several airline explosive decompressions in the past 50 years. The fatal ones have each had one fatality, even with crazy damage to the plane (look up Aloha 243) Uhhm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_611 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_611 > Fatalities: 225

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> I'd contact your favorite airlines and demand that they retire their MAX planes This isn't happening. Demand would swell well before price cuts made those planes uneconomical.

cameldrv 3y ago

The 737MAX is not going away. There are about 1400 of them flying and another 6000 orders. Boeing obviously has some serious quality problems that need to get fixed, but since the grounding in 2019, the MAX has done something like 1.5 million flights with no fatalities. This is worth fixing, but it's not dangerous enough to change your travel plans. You're way more likely to die from COVID you caught on the plane than because the plane was unsafe.

justinclift 3y ago
> it's not dangerous enough to change your travel plans. They keep having new critical safety issues. :( That latest one only didn't end up with fatalities due to luck, it could just as easily have gone the other way.
- cameldrv 3y ago
  Absolutely. There have been several airline explosive decompressions in the past 50 years. The fatal ones have each had one fatality, even with crazy damage to the plane (look up Aloha 243) If you figure this incident "should" have had one fatality, if you figure 100 passengers per flight, that's a 1/150,000,000 chance of dying. Your odds of death are way worse on the drive to the airport than from this.
  - justinclift 3y ago
    k, now calculate the odds for "737 Max series planes" vs the rest, then make your choice. ;)
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > calculate the odds for "737 Max series planes" Those planes have also flown millions of miles without incident. This is a low-frequency statistics game; the signal is presently constrained to the type 9.
  - account42 3y ago
    > There have been several airline explosive decompressions in the past 50 years. The fatal ones have each had one fatality, even with crazy damage to the plane (look up Aloha 243) Uhhm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_611 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_611 > Fatalities: 225