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If the machine had an open API that I could control and utilize entirely locally, I can see (minor) advantages to most of these. Really anything that is a somew

If the machine had an open API that I could control and utilize entirely locally, I can see (minor) advantages to most of these. Really anything that is a somewhat highish power load and only needs to run very intermittently, having a way to control it with home automation (which requires some kind of wireless connection), could be of some use. THe problem is that they are including this network connectivity in a completely closed down way where you, the user, do not actually have any control over what is sent to or from the device. that kind of connection I agree is worse than useless: actively malicious and bad, and I would pay extra to not have it.

wt__ 3y ago
I don't particularly want any appliances that connect to the internet, but it would be quite fun to have a washing machine API that reported sensor data like water temperature, weight of load, drum rotation speed during the spin cycle, door lock/unlock status etc.
snapplebobapple 3y ago
My plan to solve this is buy an all in one like the new ge prestige unit when my washer or dryer breaks. That runs on a regular outlet so there are many, many cheap esphome based outlets that monitor power draw that will work. At that point its a trivial rule in home assisant to notify me when the thibg is done.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
  Do those even work with the type of power load a washing machine needs? I'm thinking of how you shouldn't connect the washing machine to a power bar
  - shiroiuma 3y ago
    If it can handle the normal amperage a US outlet can supply, it should be fine. Washers don't use that much electricity; they run on standard 120V/15A outlets in the US.
jacknews 3y ago
Exactly, and they also provide the network stuff over and above an already complex local lcd/button/touchscreen UI. They should just provide a local API, conforming to a standard, and then 3rd party remote control software could drive it. The physical UI on the machine itself is then just and on/off start/stop button.
soco 3y ago
Why paying extra? You just don't connect them to your local wifi, that's what I did with my Bosch devices. It's not like they can connect by themselves (can they?)
- MrMember 3y ago
  For now. I could see a lot of these devices including a cell modem in the future.

wt__ 3y ago

I don't particularly want any appliances that connect to the internet, but it would be quite fun to have a washing machine API that reported sensor data like water temperature, weight of load, drum rotation speed during the spin cycle, door lock/unlock status etc.

snapplebobapple 3y ago

My plan to solve this is buy an all in one like the new ge prestige unit when my washer or dryer breaks. That runs on a regular outlet so there are many, many cheap esphome based outlets that monitor power draw that will work. At that point its a trivial rule in home assisant to notify me when the thibg is done.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
Do those even work with the type of power load a washing machine needs? I'm thinking of how you shouldn't connect the washing machine to a power bar
- shiroiuma 3y ago
  If it can handle the normal amperage a US outlet can supply, it should be fine. Washers don't use that much electricity; they run on standard 120V/15A outlets in the US.

jacknews 3y ago

Exactly, and they also provide the network stuff over and above an already complex local lcd/button/touchscreen UI. They should just provide a local API, conforming to a standard, and then 3rd party remote control software could drive it. The physical UI on the machine itself is then just and on/off start/stop button.

soco 3y ago

Why paying extra? You just don't connect them to your local wifi, that's what I did with my Bosch devices. It's not like they can connect by themselves (can they?)

MrMember 3y ago
For now. I could see a lot of these devices including a cell modem in the future.