> There are a surprising amount of that on various discord servers. I'm never surprised anymore by how much productive discussion is entombed in Discord server

> There are a surprising amount of that on various discord servers. I'm never surprised anymore by how much productive discussion is entombed in Discord servers, just sad. Servers are hidden from the public, not web-searchable, barely searchable internally, horrible threading, notification hell, proprietary software, zero data ownership - it could hardly be a worse public discussion forum if it tried. Which makes sense because it was designed to be something else. Sigh... got a link to any of these servers that have better discussion than HN?