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The 737 fuselage is shipped from Spirit to Boeing without an interior. The door plugs are removed by Boeing during the interior installation. It is up to Boeing

The 737 fuselage is shipped from Spirit to Boeing without an interior. The door plugs are removed by Boeing during the interior installation. It is up to Boeing to reinstall them properly. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38920716 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38920716

kube-system 3y ago
We don't know whether the reason they are failing is due to an installation issue or not.
- consumer451 3y ago
  We don't know for sure, but informed speculation indicates that this is likely the problem. See the replies to my link above. However, you are correct. Until the final NTSB report comes out, we don't know.
  - shermantanktop 3y ago
    This type of delay is of strategic value to the status quo. "We need to wait until all the facts are in," "investigations take time," "We're still looking at root causes and it is premature to..." These statements may be factually true, but the time it takes allows people to be distracted by something else, passions to cool, and urgency to dissipate. It's no brainwave for Boeing or anyone else (e.g. the NTSB, on Boeing's behalf) to realize that the slower and more methodical the investigation, the lower the final penalty (of whatever kind) will probably be, at least for one-off incidents. When the track record gets long, the actual quality of the investigations may start weighing against them...eventually.
    - kube-system 3y ago
      Public opinion isn't a functional way to increase transportation safety anyway. All measurable increases in any form of transportation safety are due to regulatory reasons. The people who matter on this issue aren't going to forget.
consumer451 3y ago
New update from the same 777 pilot and A&P mechanic as previous video, posted 1hr ago. > "Yes, We Have No Bolts" 9 Jan 737 Max-9 Update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubCQZtLTAug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubCQZtLTAug

kube-system 3y ago

We don't know whether the reason they are failing is due to an installation issue or not.

consumer451 3y ago
We don't know for sure, but informed speculation indicates that this is likely the problem. See the replies to my link above. However, you are correct. Until the final NTSB report comes out, we don't know.
- shermantanktop 3y ago
  This type of delay is of strategic value to the status quo. "We need to wait until all the facts are in," "investigations take time," "We're still looking at root causes and it is premature to..." These statements may be factually true, but the time it takes allows people to be distracted by something else, passions to cool, and urgency to dissipate. It's no brainwave for Boeing or anyone else (e.g. the NTSB, on Boeing's behalf) to realize that the slower and more methodical the investigation, the lower the final penalty (of whatever kind) will probably be, at least for one-off incidents. When the track record gets long, the actual quality of the investigations may start weighing against them...eventually.
  - kube-system 3y ago
    Public opinion isn't a functional way to increase transportation safety anyway. All measurable increases in any form of transportation safety are due to regulatory reasons. The people who matter on this issue aren't going to forget.

consumer451 3y ago

New update from the same 777 pilot and A&P mechanic as previous video, posted 1hr ago. > "Yes, We Have No Bolts" 9 Jan 737 Max-9 Update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubCQZtLTAug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubCQZtLTAug