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That's true, but the question might be whether you personally should be worried if you find yourself on a 737 Max.

by DennisP 3y ago

alrs 3y ago
The first worry as an American is having a pillar of your country's economy managed by incompetents.
- gruez 3y ago
  Sounds a lot like "yeah sure, fear over 737 Max is overblown, but the fact that I was thinking about it in the first place says something about the current state of affairs". https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/aaaah https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/aaaah
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    People are concerned because it seems irrefutable that there is corruption and a culture of cost cutting causing these issues. Incompetence is understandable, improperly modeling the physics due to lack of experience or knowledge is understandable, but repeated instances that point to corruption at the government regulator and bad culture at the manufacturer lend to fears that the situation will get worse for a while before it gets better. It’s the same reason you might avoid flying on an Eastern European/Russian airplane. The perceived risks move from unforeseeable error or bad luck to systemic error.
  - alrs 3y ago
    It sounds nothing like that. Boeing is going to lose deals because carriers don't want to deal with repeated groundings. The US economy will reflect that.
flashback2199 3y ago
It doesn't matter. Nothing will change unless enough people begin voting with their feet.
- jen20 3y ago
  Many airlines allow same day changes. If everyone scheduled on a Max reschedules for alternative flights consistently, they'll get the message soon enough. Refusing to board a Boeing plane at all is perfectly reasonable at this stage.
- dkarl 3y ago
  That's not true, and we'd get to a much, much worse place if we relied on that. The industry put the current system in place because it could see that airlines would make gruesome compromises if consumer choice was the only thing driving safety.
  - flashback2199 3y ago
    What do you mean "if", anyone can choose what plane to fly on anytime.

That's true, but the question might be whether you personally should be worried if you find yourself on a 737 Max.

alrs 3y ago

The first worry as an American is having a pillar of your country's economy managed by incompetents.

gruez 3y ago
Sounds a lot like "yeah sure, fear over 737 Max is overblown, but the fact that I was thinking about it in the first place says something about the current state of affairs". https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/aaaah https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/aaaah
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  People are concerned because it seems irrefutable that there is corruption and a culture of cost cutting causing these issues. Incompetence is understandable, improperly modeling the physics due to lack of experience or knowledge is understandable, but repeated instances that point to corruption at the government regulator and bad culture at the manufacturer lend to fears that the situation will get worse for a while before it gets better. It’s the same reason you might avoid flying on an Eastern European/Russian airplane. The perceived risks move from unforeseeable error or bad luck to systemic error.
- alrs 3y ago
  It sounds nothing like that. Boeing is going to lose deals because carriers don't want to deal with repeated groundings. The US economy will reflect that.

flashback2199 3y ago

It doesn't matter. Nothing will change unless enough people begin voting with their feet.

jen20 3y ago
Many airlines allow same day changes. If everyone scheduled on a Max reschedules for alternative flights consistently, they'll get the message soon enough. Refusing to board a Boeing plane at all is perfectly reasonable at this stage.
dkarl 3y ago
That's not true, and we'd get to a much, much worse place if we relied on that. The industry put the current system in place because it could see that airlines would make gruesome compromises if consumer choice was the only thing driving safety.
- flashback2199 3y ago
  What do you mean "if", anyone can choose what plane to fly on anytime.