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Surplus value is an essential piece to any of this actually working - if you don't have surplus value, there's no signal to inform on where our collective energ
by its_ethan 3y ago
Surplus value is an essential piece to any of this actually working - if you don't have surplus value, there's no signal to inform on where our collective energy/ resources should be focused.
If there's a lot of surplus value in building a chair, that's a sign that we need more chairs. If you can't generate surplus value with the 7th coffee shop in the same city block, that's a sign there's too many coffee shops.
Any system that aims to remove surplus value removes this signal, which leaves you with a centrally controlled economy/system - and those tend to not only never work (at basically any scale) but tend to make everyone's life worse and worse over time and/or fail catastrophically.
Also, for what it's worth, I think you might be projecting on to some assumptions you have about janitorial work.
- stanleykm 3y agoSurplus value can continue to exist but as it is today it goes directly to the capitalist class via stock buybacks and dividends, rather than back to the workers.
- calf 3y agoThere is no actual argument that distributed greediness via profit signaling leads to the right social system, either. At best you have a heuristic, just like how many algorithms are heuristics. You can't argue heuristics as if they are the absolute truth.