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What should one specialize in for the EU job market?

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
C for German Industrial and automotive sector, Java CRUD for banks, BS consultancy and body shops, and Python stuff for hip Berlin start-ups that will 99% fail for 0,1% equity and no housing. Pretty different than Silicon Valley.
- tharmas 3y ago
  >BS consultancy and body shops I've never heard of "BS". What language is this? Isn't Python the lingua franca of AI/ML? I would tend to agree with the cynicism regarding failure rate and expensive housing take, however. Despite the hype I still think AI/ML does have more potential practical use cases than crypto/block chain did.
  - no_wizard 3y ago
    I'm not sure if you're being tongue and cheek here, however in the case you aren't What the OP is saying is that Java is good for CRUD, consultancies and body shops (which are a way of saying poor engineering consultancy firms, often Accenture is considered one, for an example) and Python for German startups that often fail and don't provide the same type of benefits / pay like SV startups do, at least sometimes. BS in this case isn't a language, it stands for bullsh*t.
    - tharmas 3y ago
      Thanks for taking the time to clear it up for me. I read it as Java for CRUD, but not for consultancies and body shops. I should have realized that the OP would've used the phrase "BS for" if he/she was referring to another programming language besides Java. I was thinking it might've been a typo for JS but it didn't seem to fit the context for body shops. Apparently Apple created a language called "Bs" but I figured it couldn't be that either. And someone did create a BSLang, but as a joke. Lesson learned for how the mind can steer itself in the wrong direction based on an erroneous assumption from an inaccurate reading.
  - braza 3y ago
    BS is most of the time a slang for Bullshit.
- wintogreen74 3y ago
  the start-up situation sounds pretty similar
  - tharmas 3y ago
    Thanks. This should've been my first assumption. I should've realised there was no "for" after BS.
dukeyukey 3y ago
The EU has dozens of countries, and within each country you've got distinct markets dominating in different cities. If you have a country/city in mind it's best to aim for that market, otherwise any advice is too general to help you.
pcrh 3y ago
While it is no longer in the EU per se, the City in London may be one of the few places in Europe that is directly comparable to, and competitive with, the US in terms of job opportunities in software and fintech.
- arp242 3y ago
  It's completely different from the EU days, and it's no longer in the EU, full stop. Getting a visa for UK isn't really any easier than $any_other_country. Not only that, it's often quite a bit more expensive with the NHS surcharge and such.
  - mnky9800n 3y ago
    And the salary sucks. There's a new ai super computing cluster in Bristol that's connected with HPE and their salary would be half what I make in Norway. Highly interesting jobs but not highly interesting salaries.

C for German Industrial and automotive sector, Java CRUD for banks, BS consultancy and body shops, and Python stuff for hip Berlin start-ups that will 99% fail for 0,1% equity and no housing. Pretty different than Silicon Valley.

tharmas 3y ago
>BS consultancy and body shops I've never heard of "BS". What language is this? Isn't Python the lingua franca of AI/ML? I would tend to agree with the cynicism regarding failure rate and expensive housing take, however. Despite the hype I still think AI/ML does have more potential practical use cases than crypto/block chain did.
- no_wizard 3y ago
  I'm not sure if you're being tongue and cheek here, however in the case you aren't What the OP is saying is that Java is good for CRUD, consultancies and body shops (which are a way of saying poor engineering consultancy firms, often Accenture is considered one, for an example) and Python for German startups that often fail and don't provide the same type of benefits / pay like SV startups do, at least sometimes. BS in this case isn't a language, it stands for bullsh*t.
  - tharmas 3y ago
    Thanks for taking the time to clear it up for me. I read it as Java for CRUD, but not for consultancies and body shops. I should have realized that the OP would've used the phrase "BS for" if he/she was referring to another programming language besides Java. I was thinking it might've been a typo for JS but it didn't seem to fit the context for body shops. Apparently Apple created a language called "Bs" but I figured it couldn't be that either. And someone did create a BSLang, but as a joke. Lesson learned for how the mind can steer itself in the wrong direction based on an erroneous assumption from an inaccurate reading.
- braza 3y ago
  BS is most of the time a slang for Bullshit.
wintogreen74 3y ago
the start-up situation sounds pretty similar
- tharmas 3y ago
  Thanks. This should've been my first assumption. I should've realised there was no "for" after BS.

dukeyukey 3y ago

The EU has dozens of countries, and within each country you've got distinct markets dominating in different cities. If you have a country/city in mind it's best to aim for that market, otherwise any advice is too general to help you.

pcrh 3y ago

While it is no longer in the EU per se, the City in London may be one of the few places in Europe that is directly comparable to, and competitive with, the US in terms of job opportunities in software and fintech.

arp242 3y ago
It's completely different from the EU days, and it's no longer in the EU, full stop. Getting a visa for UK isn't really any easier than $any_other_country. Not only that, it's often quite a bit more expensive with the NHS surcharge and such.
- mnky9800n 3y ago
  And the salary sucks. There's a new ai super computing cluster in Bristol that's connected with HPE and their salary would be half what I make in Norway. Highly interesting jobs but not highly interesting salaries.