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What if the passport office is in a different country?

by zarzavat 3y ago

ghaff 3y ago
In many cases, I would assume a foreign passport is not considered acceptable government-issued photo ID.
- TillE 3y ago
  What other ID would a company that does business globally (eg, a cloud server provider) accept?
- zarzavat 3y ago
  Sure if you live in a racially homogenous country like North Korea, everywhere else of course it is, how else would non-nationals prove their identity?
  - ghaff 3y ago
    Non-nationals may not be able to do certain types of transactions like opening a bank account at many banks. For trivial things like age verification for alcohol purchase I expect most stores/bars would be fine; presumably no one is forging a passport so they can get a drink. And obviously, in general, places like hotels can fulfill any legal requirements by accepting a passport as ID. As for organizations like AWS, they presumably have a business presence of some sort in countries where they do business and are setup to verify identity in those countries if they so choose. They also presumably don't have the same degree of KYC requirements that a bank does.
    - lxgr 3y ago
      > Non-nationals may not be able to do certain types of transactions like opening a bank account at many banks. Although many banks in the US can't be bothered to do KYC for non-residents, some certainly allow it. I've done it myself. Outside the US, opening an account as a non-citizen is very common and usually not a problem at all. In the EU, it would even be illegal to only accept citizens as customers.
      - ghaff 3y ago
        Yes, I was speaking specifically of the US. I'm sure it's possible with a lot of bigger banks. As you say, I assume a lot of smaller, local banks consider it a headache not worth it as the profit to them is miniscule.
true_religion 3y ago
What context are we talking about here? In financial context (e.g. verification for a bank account), usually banks will only accept ID that they can verify as primary ID. In an immigration context, the agency is often able to verify passports even with countries that government is at war with.
- lxgr 3y ago
  > In financial context (e.g. verification for a bank account), usually banks will only accept ID that they can verify as primary ID. This usually includes passports. I don't think banks can actually reach out to the issuing government to check whether the passport is stolen or cancelled.
MichaelZuo 3y ago
They pay a higher fee and/or manually send an agent to their offices to verify, if they really really want that customer.

What if the passport office is in a different country?

ghaff 3y ago

In many cases, I would assume a foreign passport is not considered acceptable government-issued photo ID.

TillE 3y ago
What other ID would a company that does business globally (eg, a cloud server provider) accept?
zarzavat 3y ago
Sure if you live in a racially homogenous country like North Korea, everywhere else of course it is, how else would non-nationals prove their identity?
- ghaff 3y ago
  Non-nationals may not be able to do certain types of transactions like opening a bank account at many banks. For trivial things like age verification for alcohol purchase I expect most stores/bars would be fine; presumably no one is forging a passport so they can get a drink. And obviously, in general, places like hotels can fulfill any legal requirements by accepting a passport as ID. As for organizations like AWS, they presumably have a business presence of some sort in countries where they do business and are setup to verify identity in those countries if they so choose. They also presumably don't have the same degree of KYC requirements that a bank does.
  - lxgr 3y ago
    > Non-nationals may not be able to do certain types of transactions like opening a bank account at many banks. Although many banks in the US can't be bothered to do KYC for non-residents, some certainly allow it. I've done it myself. Outside the US, opening an account as a non-citizen is very common and usually not a problem at all. In the EU, it would even be illegal to only accept citizens as customers.
    - ghaff 3y ago
      Yes, I was speaking specifically of the US. I'm sure it's possible with a lot of bigger banks. As you say, I assume a lot of smaller, local banks consider it a headache not worth it as the profit to them is miniscule.

true_religion 3y ago

What context are we talking about here? In financial context (e.g. verification for a bank account), usually banks will only accept ID that they can verify as primary ID. In an immigration context, the agency is often able to verify passports even with countries that government is at war with.

lxgr 3y ago
> In financial context (e.g. verification for a bank account), usually banks will only accept ID that they can verify as primary ID. This usually includes passports. I don't think banks can actually reach out to the issuing government to check whether the passport is stolen or cancelled.

MichaelZuo 3y ago

They pay a higher fee and/or manually send an agent to their offices to verify, if they really really want that customer.