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i think AI boyfriends have a brighter future, consider who prefers to consume text-based content

by nyolfen 3y ago

ksherlock 3y ago
Don't waste your time with a robot boyfriend. He nuts and bolts.
solardev 3y ago
> consider who prefers to consume text-based content Other GPTs? I guess they get lonely too
klyrs 3y ago
Gender is a construct; if Annie wants to be a boy, it's still a sexless robot. To me, the funny thing about these things is that Annie isn't just "your" girlfriend, it's anybody's girlfriend. Is that what people want?
- ithkuil 3y ago
  Constructs are constructed, in one way or another way and each construct is different from another construct constructed using different ruleset. It doesn't matter if you think that gender is innate, fixed, immutable, strictly binary, mandated by god, or socially acquired, fluid, in a spectrum: if you designed a machine to act as a representative of some definition of a gender it will act like that, unless you also teach it to be fluid and able to adapt to your wishes. What machines do or can do is independent from what humans do or can do because we are just been constructed differently
  - klyrs 3y ago
    > if you designed a machine to act as a representative of some definition of a gender it will act like that, unless you also teach it to be fluid and able to adapt to your wishes This is incredibly far removed from how LLMs actually work. Part of me is tempted to accept the challenge you've laid down (intentionally or not), and attempt to convince "Annie" here that despite its creator's intent, it is actually a boy. Given my experience with prompt injection, this should be trivial. The other part of me doesn't care enough to follow through on installing telegram much less interact with a bot over it.
    - ithkuil 3y ago
      You may well be right about LLMs but if they can be adapted to match you're expectations about gender says something about how LLM works and not necessarily about how humans work My point is that the two things and not strictly related and you cannot make conclusions about humans just because you know something about LLMs or the converse. Since concepts like gender are to be understood within a context of humans I find sentences like "since gender is a social construct in humans then it follows that it must be a social construct in LLMs and necessarily easily changeable" to be fallacious logic
listless 3y ago
I had the same thought. Unfortunately, I think males are the ones in an epidemic of loneliness. Girls have easy options for immediate companionship - just jump on any dating app and swipe right once. That said, it’s the same guys hooking up with pretty much all the girls so certainly they are also desiring deeper, real connection. Anyway. Good idea, but no way I’m messaging this thing on Telegram.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  > I think males are the ones in an epidemic of loneliness. I think that this sort of thing is more likely to make loneliness worse, not better. > Girls have easy options for immediate companionship - just jump on any dating app and swipe right once. What? I suppose so, if what you're thinking of is just hooking up without concern for partner quality. If, however, what they want is an actual companion, it's no easier for women than for men (and I've heard many women make persuasive cases that it's harder for women.)
  - justinclift 3y ago
    > make persuasive cases that it's harder for women. What are some examples of that?
    - JohnFen 3y ago
      I've heard several different complaints, but probably the most common one is that it's hard for women to find compatible men who are interested in real relationships. Most men seem to just want hookups, not taking the time needed to build something with substance. This isn't a complaint I hear men make about women.
      - justinclift 3y ago
        Yeah, men (in the generalisation sense) could indeed have different complaints from women. But that's not proof that the claim by women that things are harder for them is true. :/
- 3y ago

i think AI boyfriends have a brighter future, consider who prefers to consume text-based content

ksherlock 3y ago

Don't waste your time with a robot boyfriend. He nuts and bolts.

solardev 3y ago

> consider who prefers to consume text-based content Other GPTs? I guess they get lonely too

klyrs 3y ago

Gender is a construct; if Annie wants to be a boy, it's still a sexless robot. To me, the funny thing about these things is that Annie isn't just "your" girlfriend, it's anybody's girlfriend. Is that what people want?

ithkuil 3y ago
Constructs are constructed, in one way or another way and each construct is different from another construct constructed using different ruleset. It doesn't matter if you think that gender is innate, fixed, immutable, strictly binary, mandated by god, or socially acquired, fluid, in a spectrum: if you designed a machine to act as a representative of some definition of a gender it will act like that, unless you also teach it to be fluid and able to adapt to your wishes. What machines do or can do is independent from what humans do or can do because we are just been constructed differently
- klyrs 3y ago
  > if you designed a machine to act as a representative of some definition of a gender it will act like that, unless you also teach it to be fluid and able to adapt to your wishes This is incredibly far removed from how LLMs actually work. Part of me is tempted to accept the challenge you've laid down (intentionally or not), and attempt to convince "Annie" here that despite its creator's intent, it is actually a boy. Given my experience with prompt injection, this should be trivial. The other part of me doesn't care enough to follow through on installing telegram much less interact with a bot over it.
  - ithkuil 3y ago
    You may well be right about LLMs but if they can be adapted to match you're expectations about gender says something about how LLM works and not necessarily about how humans work My point is that the two things and not strictly related and you cannot make conclusions about humans just because you know something about LLMs or the converse. Since concepts like gender are to be understood within a context of humans I find sentences like "since gender is a social construct in humans then it follows that it must be a social construct in LLMs and necessarily easily changeable" to be fallacious logic

listless 3y ago

I had the same thought. Unfortunately, I think males are the ones in an epidemic of loneliness. Girls have easy options for immediate companionship - just jump on any dating app and swipe right once. That said, it’s the same guys hooking up with pretty much all the girls so certainly they are also desiring deeper, real connection. Anyway. Good idea, but no way I’m messaging this thing on Telegram.

JohnFen 3y ago
> I think males are the ones in an epidemic of loneliness. I think that this sort of thing is more likely to make loneliness worse, not better. > Girls have easy options for immediate companionship - just jump on any dating app and swipe right once. What? I suppose so, if what you're thinking of is just hooking up without concern for partner quality. If, however, what they want is an actual companion, it's no easier for women than for men (and I've heard many women make persuasive cases that it's harder for women.)
- justinclift 3y ago
  > make persuasive cases that it's harder for women. What are some examples of that?
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    I've heard several different complaints, but probably the most common one is that it's hard for women to find compatible men who are interested in real relationships. Most men seem to just want hookups, not taking the time needed to build something with substance. This isn't a complaint I hear men make about women.
    - justinclift 3y ago
      Yeah, men (in the generalisation sense) could indeed have different complaints from women. But that's not proof that the claim by women that things are harder for them is true. :/
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