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I'm not aware of any better place for people to chat about programming languages including esoteric stuff like APL where someone actively developing the main co

I'm not aware of any better place for people to chat about programming languages including esoteric stuff like APL where someone actively developing the main commercial offering and another writing an open source alternative are actively contributing to the conversation and explaining how low level operations work. I've seen plenty of experts here on stuff like Prolog, Lisp, Forth, Smalltalk (Alan Kay has posted on here), tons on Java, Python, R, C++, Julia...it goes on and on.

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recursive 3y ago
lambda the ultimate
- CoastalCoder 3y ago
  For convenience: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/ http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/
dartos 3y ago
There are a surprising amount of that on various discord servers. I chat about esoteric languages on the Godot engine discord server once in a while.
- xvector 3y ago
  Right, but that's very specific, and frankly Discord makes terrible public forums. HN excels as a general purpose forum for technical discussions relating to computer science.
  - krapp 3y ago
    The quality of actual technical discussion on HN is not much better on average than any programming or technical subreddit in my experience, if they are well moderated. It shouldn't be surprising that the most technically adept people here also tend to post the least often. The biggest difference is HN is strongly anti-humor, primarily because of the weird pathology the culture here has about Reddit and appearing "mainstream." But the lack of memes here doesn't make the rest of the content better, rather it tends to result in aggression, knee-jerk contrarianism and overconfident assertions in ignorance becoming low effort virtue signals instead.
  - dartos 3y ago
    HN is just barebones. I don’t think there’s anything about it that specifically makes it better than anything else other than tech articles float to the top.
- digging 3y ago
  > There are a surprising amount of that on various discord servers. I'm never surprised anymore by how much productive discussion is entombed in Discord servers, just sad. Servers are hidden from the public, not web-searchable, barely searchable internally, horrible threading, notification hell, proprietary software, zero data ownership - it could hardly be a worse public discussion forum if it tried. Which makes sense because it was designed to be something else. Sigh... got a link to any of these servers that have better discussion than HN?
  - dartos 3y ago
    Not better, per se, just different. More focused, often more friendly. I’ll edit this comment with some links when I get back to my pc if I remember
baz00 3y ago
I think the point is the signal to noise ratio is poor. But it's less bad than everywhere else I find.

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recursive 3y ago

lambda the ultimate

CoastalCoder 3y ago
For convenience: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/ http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/

dartos 3y ago

There are a surprising amount of that on various discord servers. I chat about esoteric languages on the Godot engine discord server once in a while.

xvector 3y ago
Right, but that's very specific, and frankly Discord makes terrible public forums. HN excels as a general purpose forum for technical discussions relating to computer science.
- krapp 3y ago
  The quality of actual technical discussion on HN is not much better on average than any programming or technical subreddit in my experience, if they are well moderated. It shouldn't be surprising that the most technically adept people here also tend to post the least often. The biggest difference is HN is strongly anti-humor, primarily because of the weird pathology the culture here has about Reddit and appearing "mainstream." But the lack of memes here doesn't make the rest of the content better, rather it tends to result in aggression, knee-jerk contrarianism and overconfident assertions in ignorance becoming low effort virtue signals instead.
- dartos 3y ago
  HN is just barebones. I don’t think there’s anything about it that specifically makes it better than anything else other than tech articles float to the top.
digging 3y ago
> There are a surprising amount of that on various discord servers. I'm never surprised anymore by how much productive discussion is entombed in Discord servers, just sad. Servers are hidden from the public, not web-searchable, barely searchable internally, horrible threading, notification hell, proprietary software, zero data ownership - it could hardly be a worse public discussion forum if it tried. Which makes sense because it was designed to be something else. Sigh... got a link to any of these servers that have better discussion than HN?
- dartos 3y ago
  Not better, per se, just different. More focused, often more friendly. I’ll edit this comment with some links when I get back to my pc if I remember

baz00 3y ago

I think the point is the signal to noise ratio is poor. But it's less bad than everywhere else I find.