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"they give the anecdotal hint that limitations will ALWAYS be beaten." Don't you mean usually? I haven't seen the big break throughs in AI that were expected.

• rbanffy 18y ago
  Because, by definition, when an AI breakthrough is achieved, it's no longer AI...
  • jshen 18y ago
    that's a good soundbite, but it's nonsense. AI hasn't lived up to the promises made a few decades ago. * 1958, H. A. Simon and Allen Newell: "within ten years a digital computer will be the world's chess champion" and "within ten years a digital computer will discover and prove an important new mathematical theorem."[53] * 1965, H. A. Simon: "machines will be capable, within twenty years, of doing any work a man can do."[54] * 1967, Marvin Minsky: "Within a generation ... the problem of creating 'artificial intelligence' will substantially be solved."[55] * 1970, Marvin Minsky (in Life Magazine): "In from three to eight years we will have a machine with the general intelligence of an average human being."[56]
    • Retric 18y ago
      I like how you found 2 people who support your argument, but there is a gap separating predictions from promises. Many classical definitions of AI have been surpassed, but because people are still better at a verity of tasks we say we don't have AI. PS: A digital computer is the worlds chess champion or would be if we let them compete. Making a useful captia is hard, but computers don't compose poetry so we can still say we don't have AI.
      • jshen 18y ago
        poetry is a bad example. A computer still can't translate from one language to another at a level anyone would trust for something important.
        • Retric 18y ago
          Computer translations fall in between a freshman HS language student and an expert. I am not going to trust it for diplomatic negotiations, but I have still used it for some verifiable tasks. Voice to text translations also fit in this context if you can't type then it's ok, but if you need a high level of accuracy then use a person. Which IMO describes the state of most computer AI. It's picking stocks and rejecting parts but I still want a real doctor.
          • jshen 18y ago
            exactly, AI hasn't lived up to the promises which was my original point. Remember I was responding to this quote, "they give the anecdotal hint that limitations will ALWAYS be beaten." Limitations will not always be beaten.
• petercooper 18y ago
  Perhaps I should have said numerical limitations or limitations of scale, rather than limitations of technique.