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Also I do wonder sometimes whether mathematicians don't actually understand some of the maths they work on We don’t. One of the first steps to mathematical mat

Also I do wonder sometimes whether mathematicians don't actually understand some of the maths they work on We don’t. One of the first steps to mathematical maturity is learning to let go of the need to understand, the need to visualize. Much of mathematics is a formal affair of making arguments to satisfy necessary and sufficient conditions. Trying to understand infinite-dimensional spaces or highly abstract sets and objects is too much, and unnecessary. ”Young man, in mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them.” — John von Neumann

viknesh 3y ago
I would disagree. Mathematicians certainly don't need to visualize everything but "intuition" is a commonly used phrase which is a notion of understanding. Although math merely requires proving some statement, often having an intuition / understanding of how concepts interact with each other helps figure out which things are likely to be true.
nyssos 3y ago
> Much of mathematics is a formal affair of making arguments to satisfy necessary and sufficient conditions. Some areas have a formalist culture like this (descriptive set theory seems to, for instance, though that might just be what it looks like from the outside), but it's far from universal. At the other end of the spectrum I find it hard to imagine anyone getting far with algebraic geometry without building intuition. And then of course in mathematical physics the intuition-frontier is always decades ahead of the formal one.
jvvw 3y ago
I never felt I properly understood a proof unless I understood it both intuitively and formally. The formalism is to make sure your intuitions are water-tight. But there are proofs you can accept are formally correct without intuitively understanding them - I would accept the truth of such proof but not feel like I understood them.

viknesh 3y ago

I would disagree. Mathematicians certainly don't need to visualize everything but "intuition" is a commonly used phrase which is a notion of understanding. Although math merely requires proving some statement, often having an intuition / understanding of how concepts interact with each other helps figure out which things are likely to be true.

nyssos 3y ago

> Much of mathematics is a formal affair of making arguments to satisfy necessary and sufficient conditions. Some areas have a formalist culture like this (descriptive set theory seems to, for instance, though that might just be what it looks like from the outside), but it's far from universal. At the other end of the spectrum I find it hard to imagine anyone getting far with algebraic geometry without building intuition. And then of course in mathematical physics the intuition-frontier is always decades ahead of the formal one.

jvvw 3y ago

I never felt I properly understood a proof unless I understood it both intuitively and formally. The formalism is to make sure your intuitions are water-tight. But there are proofs you can accept are formally correct without intuitively understanding them - I would accept the truth of such proof but not feel like I understood them.