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Samsung debuts the first transparent MicroLED screen at CES 2024
- hu3 3y agoWhat does Apple's Vision Pro use to make it "transparent" when people are nearby?
- sschueller 3y agoIt's not transparent. It's a screen on the outside and you see what the cameras pick up on the inside. What is shown to people isn't even your real face/eyes, it's a a digital representation of it.
- lopis 3y agoWhen you first setup your AVP, you make a 3D scan of your face, and that's what the AVP is displaying, together with eye tracking.
- sickofparadox 3y agoDoes anyone know if the screendoor effect on the LG transparent OLED in the second picture is an artifact of taking a picture in subpar conditions or just how the display looks? I've heard CES can be a nightmare for pictures so I'm hoping its the former rather than the latter.
- AnotherGoodName 3y agoThat's clearly just a bumpy wall that extends past the TV?
- sickofparadox 3y agoSo it is! Maybe I should look into getting glasses, haha.
- sschueller 3y agoI don't think there is a significant market for transparent displays. We have had transparent monochrome LCDs for a long time and transparent OLED also already exist as well. The use for it is limited however the tech to achieve it is a milestone allowing better processes for "regular" TVs etc. I recall there being a game and watch Mario game with a transparent LCD back in the day. Not many things use the tech.
- lopis 3y agoI think the market will be basically more engaging (and annoying) advertising in all surfaces like windows on buses and commercial buildings.
- evan_ 3y agoThe difference between micro LED and LCDs is that the LED displays actually emit light whereas the LCD displays only get darker. It's completely different, it's like comparing an original game boy and an OLED iPhone.
- CuriouslyC 3y agoAre you kidding me? Transparent displays when scaled sufficiently will allow AR glasses that don't suck. Complex tasks will have AR overlays telling people exactly what to do and giving feedback on task performance in real time. Even better, all the VR side effects due to refresh rate/fps/etc will be non-issues because you'll be looking at the real world.
- caslon 3y agoThis isn't actually the case; we've had transparent displays for years, and they don't help AR. Hold your finger to your eye. Can you make out its prints? Existing AR/VR displays are a hack around the human focal length, not a hack around solid displays.
- nzach 3y ago> Transparent displays when scaled sufficiently will allow AR glasses that don't suck. I don't think we will ever have AR glasses with transparent displays. The human eye generally can't properly focus anything closer than 10cm. Maybe we could have a face shield with a transparent display and this way we could hold it just far enough so it can be in focus. The only way we can make "smart glasses" is with some expensive optics.
- Scene_Cast2 3y agoTransparent OLEDs have been demo'd for ages now. They are a flashy demo, and show off R&D and production capabilities. They haven't really materialized into broad consumer products though, perhaps due to limited market & practicality, custom nature of applications, performance, or cost. To make transparent microLEDs appear in your local Best Buy, something should be different about them vs OLEDs - so I don't trust these to make it out of CES either.
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- maven29 3y agoI've personally seen transparent OLED displays in museum displays. So the market is definitely closer to that of video walls, than of 85-inch televisions made for the living room. I could see it coming to controlled conditions like supermarket freezer window panes, but not something architectural. Sure, the signage business might not be high volume relative to consumer electronics. However, engineering entire new use-cases to target larger markets might not be worthwhile, if supply and pricing cannot meet market expectations due to yield constraints.
- londons_explore 3y agoFor anyone wanting to make a transparent OLED, you can just peel the backing foil off a regular OLED. Beware that without the foil, the OLED is super fragile - the back touching anything will make rows/columns break, so if I were you I'd replace it with a sheet of clear plastic/glass for actual use.
- habitue 3y agoFinally somebody can make the transparent hand terminal[0] devices from The Expanse [0]: https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Hand_terminal https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Hand_terminal
- asah 3y agoEveryone's asking "but why" ? My 2c: you see transparent displays in movies (e.g. Minority Report) because they're cool but also for the Hollywood-practical reason that it allows the audience to see the body language and facial expressions of the user/protagonist. IRL, you don't want everyone seeing your screen and don't want the visual distraction of seeing other peoples' screens. If you want to share, it's trivial to screenshare to their device, project on a wall, put two thin monitors back-to-back, etc.
- rcdemski 3y agoI can only see very limited market uses like possibly store window displays or some theme park attraction. I don’t know how that can justify the R&D expense.
- jwells89 3y agoIt depends on execution, but I could see transparent screens being nice for a desk setup where privacy isn’t a concern. They could make for a cleaner, more open, less cluttered feel than could be had with traditional displays. One could also more easily have arbitrary logical divisions of transparent screens. For instance one could set up a single transparent superultrawide screen to function as three separate displays if they wanted (useful for having multiple sets of virtual desktops) with transparency being used to create aesthetically pleasing divisions between each virtual screen (imagine each screen as a roundrect).
- 01100011 3y agoYou don't have any interest in a TV that effectively disappears when it's off? You'd rather have a large, black monolith to look at?
- jwells89 3y agoA big empty stretch of wall space would be as awkward (or more) than a large black monolith in my opinion, but if the screen could switch off backlighting (but not color) in its pixels and basically turn into an unlit canvas that displays art when idle, that could be really cool.
- readyplayernull 3y agoMicromirrors have now existed for 1-2 decades, it will be interesting to see per-pixel reflections, maybe reflecting a higher intensity light source to better simulate bloom and flares, and even for opacity control.
- quonn 3y agoCould ChatGPT have invented this product? Demoed it? Produced it? No? Maybe ChatGPT with Atlas? Still not? Well that‘s how far we are from actual AI replacing work in a meaningful way.
- noman-land 3y agoIn front of a mirror seems like it'd be cool. Or as a control panel on a glass object like a terrarium.
- isaacfrond 3y agoIt surely looks cool. But why would I want it?
- NegativeK 3y agoSince they're attention grabbing, I fully expect to see them in casinos.
- me_me_me 3y agocars? displaying stuff on a transparent surface, it might be something useful.
- darkwater 3y agoIf they can make them small enough and cheap enough, they could be used in simple AR glasses maybe.
- chrisBob 3y agoSort of. The problem is that I can't focus on something 2 inches from my eye, so there would need to be a lot of other optics involves.
- kraftman 3y agoI'm guessing ads
- barnabee 3y agoI'd much prefer a TV that was transparent when switched off over the giant black rectangle of doom in my living room. I find myself switching it on to have the Apple TV screensaver instead, just because it's so imposing otherwise.
- xnx 3y agoThe black rectangle problem isn't talked about enough. Screensavers are something, but have their own problems. I'm surprised there aren't more mechanical solutions (e.g. roll-down shade).