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I am describing what I see as a societal shift and commenting on it. You are making this (and your other comment) into some moralistic activist argument, which

I am describing what I see as a societal shift and commenting on it. You are making this (and your other comment) into some moralistic activist argument, which is entirely missing the point and frankly just uninteresting. As I said, it’s not about what is better, it’s what ends up being used by people that drives culture. Adding to that: the critique of writing has a long history going back all the way to Plato. This is not a new topic.

mym1990 3y ago
What is uninteresting is your weak spine in succumbing to "societal inertia", without considering what is possibly good or bad, just what is. You clearly don't know what you're describing because you're just flip flopping between 2 things. Just read your comments back in a couple of hours and you'll understand. Like I actually can't understand how your argument is: "people are watching more videos, therefore reading is bad". Did you even think that through?
- keiferski 3y ago
  You really don’t seem to understand that one can observe things separately from passing judgment on them. It’s a basic principle of science. I don’t know why you seem to have such a hard time understanding this, but judging by your hostile remarks in every comment, you just want to argue. And in case this isn’t already crystal clear (and apparently it isn’t for you): I like books. I like reading. I have studied the history of the printing press and the book much, much more you have, I assure you. I find the transition of technology fascinating and think the internet and video is a similar revolution to the printing press. That is what my comment is about, not your puerile attempt to make me seem like I don’t like reading.
  - pomian 3y ago
    And here we are, the HN consumers, reading(!) the comments. No videos or pictures. I mention this to support your comment, that there are people who like to read, and learn from reading, but it requires more time, more involvement, and more imagination. We are a minority? Few have that luxury, and inclination - it turns out, so the massive onslaught of easy, entertainment. One music video can have 500 million viewers. I don't know how many viewers of HN there are, but, I doubt it's a million. It is interesting to see where (and how) the information flow goes from here on.
    - keiferski 3y ago
      For sure, I love HN and love reading. But if we’re honest here, it’s a niche thing. A random TikTok video gets more views than a link that’s on the HN front page all day.

mym1990 3y ago

What is uninteresting is your weak spine in succumbing to "societal inertia", without considering what is possibly good or bad, just what is. You clearly don't know what you're describing because you're just flip flopping between 2 things. Just read your comments back in a couple of hours and you'll understand. Like I actually can't understand how your argument is: "people are watching more videos, therefore reading is bad". Did you even think that through?

keiferski 3y ago
You really don’t seem to understand that one can observe things separately from passing judgment on them. It’s a basic principle of science. I don’t know why you seem to have such a hard time understanding this, but judging by your hostile remarks in every comment, you just want to argue. And in case this isn’t already crystal clear (and apparently it isn’t for you): I like books. I like reading. I have studied the history of the printing press and the book much, much more you have, I assure you. I find the transition of technology fascinating and think the internet and video is a similar revolution to the printing press. That is what my comment is about, not your puerile attempt to make me seem like I don’t like reading.
- pomian 3y ago
  And here we are, the HN consumers, reading(!) the comments. No videos or pictures. I mention this to support your comment, that there are people who like to read, and learn from reading, but it requires more time, more involvement, and more imagination. We are a minority? Few have that luxury, and inclination - it turns out, so the massive onslaught of easy, entertainment. One music video can have 500 million viewers. I don't know how many viewers of HN there are, but, I doubt it's a million. It is interesting to see where (and how) the information flow goes from here on.
  - keiferski 3y ago
    For sure, I love HN and love reading. But if we’re honest here, it’s a niche thing. A random TikTok video gets more views than a link that’s on the HN front page all day.