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Sony phones with headphone jacks, ten years ago were capable of all waterproof things you wanted to do. It's been a massive gaslighting campaign.
by Larrikin 3y ago
Sony phones with headphone jacks, ten years ago were capable of all waterproof things you wanted to do.
It's been a massive gaslighting campaign.
- blackbeans 3y agoSame thing with the Samsung S5 from 2014. IP67 waterproof with headphone jack and removable battery.
- adonese 3y agoI really am super pissed that we let go of removable batteries
- oez 3y agoWe didn't let them go, they were taken from us by force
- grishka 3y agoSame for sanely-sized screens. It really sucks for someone who doesn't watch any videos on their phone and still treats it mostly as a limited communication device rather than their primary gateway to the internet. The fact that I'm a relatively compact person doesn't help either.
- microtonal 3y agoThe iPhone 12/13 Mini was substantially smaller, but few people bought it, so they cancelled it. The vast majority seem to want large screens. Currently the only compromise are flip phones. I considered buying the Z Flip 5, but the screen protector needs to be replaced by Samsung to maintain warranty and there is no Samsung Store nearby. I asked and Samsung said I'd have to send it to them, losing my phone for a couple of days. No thanks.
- grishka 3y agoiPhones run iOS and, honestly, I can't stand it for a variety of reasons regardless of how nice the hardware is. Main one being that apps can only be installed from the app store. I can see myself using a jailbroken iPhone, but jailbreaks are hard to come by these days. Vast majority doesn't know what they want. They would convince themselves that whatever is currently sold must be good. But then I know at least 10 people who truly want a small phone. I'm not the only one. There's clearly a demand for phones for people for whom their computer is still their primary device. The world would've been a better place if every single phone manufacturer didn't copy the others. It's a vicious circle.
- wkat4242 3y agoYeah same here, having Tim Cook decide what I'm allowed to use my phone for is not my piece of cake. Also I just love some features of the Android ecosystem like the desktop mode (Samsung DeX and alternatives)
- alpaca128 3y agoUnfortunately bigger phone means more space for the battery and rest of the hardware, so companies will keep making their Pro Ultra models larger and so of course the larger ones are more of a status symbol.
- grishka 3y agoBut the screen consumes most of the charge in a modern phone anyway. The smaller the screen, the less battery capacity you need to get a sensible battery life. The CPU also matters, of course — that's one thing I like about my Pixel 4a, it lasts long even after 3 years because it uses a weak-ass SoC that nonetheless is perfectly capable for messaging and web browsing.
- alpaca128 3y agoThe screen is off most of the time. The iPhone 13 Mini has the same CPU as the larger models and there is a significant difference in battery life, you likely won't find a review for this device which doesn't mention how fast the battery drains.
- alpaca128 3y agoI have quite large hands and the iPhone 13 Mini is kind of the upper limit of what I call comfortable to use with one hand. The perfect phone for me is roughly the size of the iPhone 4, or like the BB Passport where the designers fully committed to the two-handed use case and made that work well. With Apple's Vision Pro and its controls based on eye movement and finger gestures in mind I think this might become a thing on larger sized phones as well. For example a dedicated button at the bottom of the screen that will just click wherever I look. At least I'd prefer that over having to do finger gymnastics on a 6 inch screen.
- konschubert 3y agoRevealed preferences.
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- MereInterest 3y agoRevealed preferences assumes that there are no confounding factors, no tyranny of small decisions, no information asymmetry and an unlimited selection of products that vary along every combination of features. It’s economic drivel, and serves only to dismiss opinions out of hand.
- konschubert 3y agoMy point is that small phones don’t sell well.
- MereInterest 3y agoThen that's an entirely different point. There are many reasons why small phones don't sell well. There's the changing market in which a phone is the primary computer for many people. There's incomplete information, as the tethers in a showroom prevent you from holding a phone one-handed, or noticing that it is too big to fit in your pocket. There's a potential for decreased design costs, as a larger space provides more options for how the phone's internals can be arranged. But calling those "revealed preferences" is a sleight-of-hand. It takes all those external factors and treats them as something intrinsic about the buyer, to be "revealed" by the market. The term itself is a lie.
- tsbinz 3y agoThat is a questionable statement, as there were phones with removable batteries and phones without them on the market for quite some time and the phones with removable batteries were simply not successful enough.
- guappa 3y agoIf they were identical in all aspects, including cost, your comment might make sense. I suspect there was more than one variable involved and so the entire idea that there is any correlation is flawed.
- SushiHippie 3y agoAnd don't forget the IR blaster, so you could control most of TVs. And IIRC it was the first Samsung phone with fingerprint reader. I miss that phone.
- guappa 3y agoI disabled the fingerprint reader since they've decided it was a good idea to put it on the power button, so locking the screen also reads my fingerprint and unlocks the screen immediately.
- SushiHippie 3y agoAre you sure, that you are talking about the S5? The S5 had a swipe fingerprint reader integrated into the home button. https://www.samsung.com/levant/support/mobile-devices/galaxy-s5-what-is-fingerprint-scanner/ https://www.samsung.com/levant/support/mobile-devices/galaxy...
- sabellito 3y agoHow is this "gaslighting"?
- npteljes 3y agoGaslighting now just means scammed, or tricked into, or lied to, unfortunately.
- Dalewyn 3y agoAnd Sony Xperias still come with headphone jacks today[1] after they tried Apple'ing for a couple models and got laughed at. [1]: https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/mobile-phones-tablets-mobile-phones/xperia-1-v-256gb/specifications https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/mobile-phones-table...
- throwaway2037 3y agoReal question / No trolling: I feel like I am the last living human who still uses the headphone jack. When I walk around my city, I see almost zero other people using it. They using wireless earbuds. I avoid wireless earbuds to avoid yet-another-battery-to-be-charged. Is this true for other HNers also?
- naitgacem 3y agoI've been holding on on my 6 years old Galaxy S8 for this reason. <rant> It's yet-another-battery-to-be-charged, it introduced lag in audio especially where it matters(think video playback or games), the battery degrades over time, can't be used with my laptop as seamlessly as unplug-here-plug-there, and I personally like to keep headphones ON all the time even when I'm not listening, in case something comes up. this would be impossible with the Bluetooth ones. sign such a crappy direction they all headed in.
- rajamaka 3y agoI don't think I have zoomed with another SWE that had a headphone cable in a decade.
- guappa 3y agoThat's because they use whatever crap the company gives them. Do you think i chose my keyboard? No, our IT budget is too low to buy me the 50€ keyboard I'd actually want. For some reason we can afford 200€ wireless headphones that have jittery sound however.
- wkat4242 3y ago