> Thanks for explaining to me what I did ;-). You're welcome. > Are you questioning the fact that Android apps are sandboxed? If yes, you may need to do some

> Thanks for explaining to me what I did ;-). You're welcome. > Are you questioning the fact that Android apps are sandboxed? If yes, you may need to do some reading on your own. I am not here to teach you how Android works. I'm not questioning whether or not Android apps are sandboxed. I'm questioning how well they're sandboxed relative to web apps, which is why I gave you several examples of capabilities that a native app has that a web app does not. You're losing the thread of the conversation. > All the webapps that try to look like Desktop apps have to ship a browser with them. You mentioned VScode, right? > Not even Google "Internet permission" before dismissing someone's point. I love that kind of webapp developers. I never said anything about VSCode. You can't even remember what we've talked about. I love that kind of commenter. We're not talking about desktop apps that use web technologies vs desktop apps that don't. We're talking about desktop (and now apparently mobile) apps vs web apps that run in the browser. Allow me to quote your original comment that I replied to as a memory refresher: "I, for one, don't want them rendered in my browser. I have an OS that can run apps, and I want my browser to be an app that renders simple HTML pages." This is what we are debating. You want to shift this conversation into a flamewar about desktop apps built with Electron, because you know your actual argument has less merit. This whole conversation has consisted of you shifting goal posts, and retreating to a lesser version of your original argument. I'm still waiting for you to compare the security of desktop apps to web apps, which was my entire original point. > Oh come on... you just don't have the slightest idea how native apps work, do you? It's literally called "android.permission.INTERNET". Have you ever tried something not web? I'm talking about permissions that a user has to intentionally grant via an explicit prompt, not a list of bullet points that appear to a user if they happen to view an app's detail page [1]. Your own link explains it best: "Note: Both the INTERNET and ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE permissions are normal permissions, which means they're granted at install time and don't need to be requested at runtime."[2] But you were actually responding to my comment about CORS when you brought up "the internet permission", which unlike the coarse grained permissions that most operating systems offer allows any website to prevent any other website from accessing its resources. Which means I can't use a web app to form a botnet that attacks some innocent server, unless that server explicitly allows it via a CORS header (and also ignores the incoming origin header). A desktop app can connect to any domain it wants, and can even directly connect to the server's ip and impersonate a legitimate client by forging the origin and user-agent headers. > They threaten every platform by making everything a ChromeOS system (no, not literally ChromeOS, but something based more and more around Chromium, which is owned by Google). No...they don't. Have you forgotten that Firefox and Safari exist, or should I send you a link to their home pages? But even if we put that aside, during this entire discussion you've been championing Android which is...wait for it... developed by Google. Please tell me you're being intentionally obtuse? [1] https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overview#install-time:~:text=When%20you%20declare%20install%2Dtime%20permissions%20in%20your%20app%2C%20an%20app%20store%20presents%20an%20install%2Dtime%20permission%20notice%20to%20the%20user%20when%20they%20view%20an%20app%27s%20details%20page%2C%20as%20shown%20in%20figure%202.%20The%20system%20automatically%20grants%20your%20app%20the%20permissions%20when%20the%20user%20installs%20your%20app https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/permissions/overv.... [2] https://developer.android.com/develop/connectivity/network-ops/connecting https://developer.android.com/develop/connectivity/network-o...