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>Such a crappy aircraft - can we just get rid of these already? It was a beautiful aircraft, destroyed by years of management comittees. Boeing needs to be br

>Such a crappy aircraft - can we just get rid of these already? It was a beautiful aircraft, destroyed by years of management comittees. Boeing needs to be broken up and reorganized, full stop. Congress has to act. It is simply too important and vital of a company to US strategic interests to be left in this state.

epicureanideal 3y ago
Maybe Apple, or Elon Musk, or some other person or company with a spare hundred billion could spin up a decent aircraft company?
- ramesh31 3y ago
  >Maybe Apple, or Elon Musk, or some other person or company with a spare hundred billion could spin up a decent aircraft company? SV has tried and failed time and again to realize the enormity of undertaking that is commercial aviation. There are less than 10 countries in the world capable of producing and marketing a competitive modern civil airliner. And of those, a vast majority are state nationalized conglomerates, or in the case of Airbus multi-country efforts. It takes almost the entirety of a country's aviation workforce and industrial capacity to maintain just one of these companies. Boeing cannot be replaced. It has to be fixed.
- AnthonyMouse 3y ago
  Elon Musk doesn't have a spare hundred billion. Apple is one of the only entities that does, but it's not really their kind of market. Institutional customers that are going to expect gradual iteration and thorough specifications that allow independent third party repairs etc. That's more like Microsoft's kind of market, but uh... don't give them any ideas.
  - bastardoperator 3y ago
    I can't even fathom what it would cost to ride an Apple airplane, coach.
    - Bud 3y ago
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- bonestamp2 3y ago
  Probably not going to happen. If someone was interested, they could have had it easy if they bought up Bombardier's CSeries aviation unit before Airbus did.
lamontcg 3y ago
> Boeing needs to be broken up and reorganized, full stop. Congress has to act. It is simply too important and vital of a company to US strategic interests to be left in this state. The MD merger that led to the shift of Boeing management culture was due to the government intervening and forcing a marriage between the two companies because MD was too important for vital defense interests.

epicureanideal 3y ago

Maybe Apple, or Elon Musk, or some other person or company with a spare hundred billion could spin up a decent aircraft company?

ramesh31 3y ago
>Maybe Apple, or Elon Musk, or some other person or company with a spare hundred billion could spin up a decent aircraft company? SV has tried and failed time and again to realize the enormity of undertaking that is commercial aviation. There are less than 10 countries in the world capable of producing and marketing a competitive modern civil airliner. And of those, a vast majority are state nationalized conglomerates, or in the case of Airbus multi-country efforts. It takes almost the entirety of a country's aviation workforce and industrial capacity to maintain just one of these companies. Boeing cannot be replaced. It has to be fixed.
AnthonyMouse 3y ago
Elon Musk doesn't have a spare hundred billion. Apple is one of the only entities that does, but it's not really their kind of market. Institutional customers that are going to expect gradual iteration and thorough specifications that allow independent third party repairs etc. That's more like Microsoft's kind of market, but uh... don't give them any ideas.
- bastardoperator 3y ago
  I can't even fathom what it would cost to ride an Apple airplane, coach.
  - Bud 3y ago
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bonestamp2 3y ago
Probably not going to happen. If someone was interested, they could have had it easy if they bought up Bombardier's CSeries aviation unit before Airbus did.

lamontcg 3y ago

> Boeing needs to be broken up and reorganized, full stop. Congress has to act. It is simply too important and vital of a company to US strategic interests to be left in this state. The MD merger that led to the shift of Boeing management culture was due to the government intervening and forcing a marriage between the two companies because MD was too important for vital defense interests.