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Israel is committing a genocide in occupied Palestine. So Yemen is intervening by blockading Israel through the Red Sea and launching strikes (similar to the NA

by devnull42069 3y ago

Israel is committing a genocide in occupied Palestine. So Yemen is intervening by blockading Israel through the Red Sea and launching strikes (similar to the NATO intervention in the Kosovo genocide). Shipping companies, rather than abiding by the selective blockade of Israeli bound ships, are re-routing all ships instead because they believe making this a global problem will resolve the matter with military intervention without them having to "pick" a side. Some of these companies also have deep ties to Israel (or based in countries that have de-facto signed off on Israeli aggression) so abiding by the blockade is not politically feasible. One exception is COSCO and they seem to going through the canal just fine.

ars 3y ago
Israel is not committing a genocide. Gaza is not occupied. Yemen is not blockading Israel. The Houthis are not attacking Israel bound ships, they are attacking all ships. Israel is not in control of shipping companies. You probably set a record for most false information in one post.
- elzbardico 3y ago
  You're kind of right in all points, yet catastrophically misleading. 1) So far it can't be called a Genocide, just mass murder along with an attempt at ethnic cleansing and forced expulsion. 2) Gaza still is not occupied and hasn't been since 2006. It is under a very severe blockade instead, and now is being invaded. 3) The Houthis are attacking Israel bound ships and whatever ship that has economic ties with Israeli nationals or economic groups.
stjohnswarts 3y ago
This is incorrect. Israel is at war with Hamas and they aren't holding back, and there is a large difference between what is going on and genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide then the entirety of Gaza would be leveled and 99% of the people dead indiscriminately. There are different levels of warfare.
- johnnyworker 3y ago
  The Genocide convention doesn't say "you mustn't kill a whole group people all at once, at least 99% of them, everything else is okay". > If Israel wanted to commit genocide then the entirety of Gaza would be leveled and 99% of the people dead indiscriminately. No, that's how it is defined. Plus, they're clearly working on it. https://twitter.com/JerryHicksUnite/status/1744029171850825914 https://twitter.com/JerryHicksUnite/status/17440291718508259... That is a good short primer to just how far off it is to call this war or self-defense. And it's in the West Bank, too: https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1744466142918238591 https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1744466142918238591 And the ethnic cleansing on the ground matches the genocidal rhetoric by politicians. Rhetoric Israel is obliged under the convention against Genocide to prohibit and prosecute, not engage in. "Bring down buildings!! Bomb without distinction!! Stop with this impotence. You have ability. There is worldwide legitimacy! Flatten Gaza." -- Revital Gottlieb, Member of the Israeli Knesset (Likud), 07/10/2023 "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly" -- Yoav Gallant, Minister of Defense, 09/10/2023 "Those are animals, they have no right to exist. I am not debating they way it will happen, but they need to be exterminated" -- Yoav Kisch, Minister of Education, 09/10/2023 "This [attack] is not enough, there should be more, there should be no limits to the response, I said it a million times, until we see hundreds of thousands fleeing Gaza, we, the IDF has not achieved its mission, this is a phase that should happen, I am saying this cause these are instructions that were said to the IDF" -- Yoav Kisch, Minister of Education, 09/10/2023 "I don't care about Gaza. I literally don't care at all. They can go out and swim in the sea. I want to see dead bodies of terrorists around gaza." -- May Golan, Minister for the Advancement of the Status of Women in Israel, 13/10/2023 "There are no innocent civilians in Gaza" -- Isaac Herzog, President, 13/10/2023 “There is no humanitarian crisis.” [..] "the humanitarian crisis at the moment is in Israel." -- Tzipi Hotovely, Israeli Ambassador to the UK, 16/10/2023 "Without hunger and thirst among the Gazan population, we will not succeed in recruiting collaborators, we will not succeed in recruiting intelligence, [or]... in bribing people with food, drink, medicine, in order to obtain intelligence." -- Revital Gotliev, Member of the Israeli Knesset (Likud), 23/10/2023 "We are the people of the light, they are the people of darkness... we shall realize the prophecy of Isaiah." -- Binyamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister, 25/10/2023 "One of the options is to drop an atomic bomb on Gaza. I pray & hope for their [hostages] return, but there is also a price in war." -- Amichai Eliyahu, Minister of Heritage, 05/11/2023 "We’re facing monsters, monsters who murdered children in front of their parents... This is a battle not only of Israel against these barbarians, it’s a battle of civilization against barbarism" -- Binyamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister, 24/12/2023 When you combine that with the gleeful cruelty IDF soliders are displaying in the videos they are making of themselves, the fact that over 30000 people have already been killed, thousands of children, half a million set to starve or die of disease in the next year, the targeting of refugee camps and journalists, the videos of snipers shooting at people out of nowhere, gunning down a woman fleeing with her child, gunning down youth just standing around in the West Bank, etc. etc. etc. the picture becomes clear and "it's not genocide because it could be worse" rings very very hollow. Palestinians are declared as non-persons and just hunted, starved, bombed. And the attempt to do this before the eyes of the world and to sanctify it is the worst attack on Western civilization, enlightenment and human rights since Hitler was on the cover of Time magazine.

ars 3y ago

Israel is not committing a genocide. Gaza is not occupied. Yemen is not blockading Israel. The Houthis are not attacking Israel bound ships, they are attacking all ships. Israel is not in control of shipping companies. You probably set a record for most false information in one post.

elzbardico 3y ago
You're kind of right in all points, yet catastrophically misleading. 1) So far it can't be called a Genocide, just mass murder along with an attempt at ethnic cleansing and forced expulsion. 2) Gaza still is not occupied and hasn't been since 2006. It is under a very severe blockade instead, and now is being invaded. 3) The Houthis are attacking Israel bound ships and whatever ship that has economic ties with Israeli nationals or economic groups.

stjohnswarts 3y ago

This is incorrect. Israel is at war with Hamas and they aren't holding back, and there is a large difference between what is going on and genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide then the entirety of Gaza would be leveled and 99% of the people dead indiscriminately. There are different levels of warfare.

johnnyworker 3y ago
The Genocide convention doesn't say "you mustn't kill a whole group people all at once, at least 99% of them, everything else is okay". > If Israel wanted to commit genocide then the entirety of Gaza would be leveled and 99% of the people dead indiscriminately. No, that's how it is defined. Plus, they're clearly working on it. https://twitter.com/JerryHicksUnite/status/1744029171850825914 https://twitter.com/JerryHicksUnite/status/17440291718508259... That is a good short primer to just how far off it is to call this war or self-defense. And it's in the West Bank, too: https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1744466142918238591 https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1744466142918238591 And the ethnic cleansing on the ground matches the genocidal rhetoric by politicians. Rhetoric Israel is obliged under the convention against Genocide to prohibit and prosecute, not engage in. "Bring down buildings!! Bomb without distinction!! Stop with this impotence. You have ability. There is worldwide legitimacy! Flatten Gaza." -- Revital Gottlieb, Member of the Israeli Knesset (Likud), 07/10/2023 "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly" -- Yoav Gallant, Minister of Defense, 09/10/2023 "Those are animals, they have no right to exist. I am not debating they way it will happen, but they need to be exterminated" -- Yoav Kisch, Minister of Education, 09/10/2023 "This [attack] is not enough, there should be more, there should be no limits to the response, I said it a million times, until we see hundreds of thousands fleeing Gaza, we, the IDF has not achieved its mission, this is a phase that should happen, I am saying this cause these are instructions that were said to the IDF" -- Yoav Kisch, Minister of Education, 09/10/2023 "I don't care about Gaza. I literally don't care at all. They can go out and swim in the sea. I want to see dead bodies of terrorists around gaza." -- May Golan, Minister for the Advancement of the Status of Women in Israel, 13/10/2023 "There are no innocent civilians in Gaza" -- Isaac Herzog, President, 13/10/2023 “There is no humanitarian crisis.” [..] "the humanitarian crisis at the moment is in Israel." -- Tzipi Hotovely, Israeli Ambassador to the UK, 16/10/2023 "Without hunger and thirst among the Gazan population, we will not succeed in recruiting collaborators, we will not succeed in recruiting intelligence, [or]... in bribing people with food, drink, medicine, in order to obtain intelligence." -- Revital Gotliev, Member of the Israeli Knesset (Likud), 23/10/2023 "We are the people of the light, they are the people of darkness... we shall realize the prophecy of Isaiah." -- Binyamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister, 25/10/2023 "One of the options is to drop an atomic bomb on Gaza. I pray & hope for their [hostages] return, but there is also a price in war." -- Amichai Eliyahu, Minister of Heritage, 05/11/2023 "We’re facing monsters, monsters who murdered children in front of their parents... This is a battle not only of Israel against these barbarians, it’s a battle of civilization against barbarism" -- Binyamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister, 24/12/2023 When you combine that with the gleeful cruelty IDF soliders are displaying in the videos they are making of themselves, the fact that over 30000 people have already been killed, thousands of children, half a million set to starve or die of disease in the next year, the targeting of refugee camps and journalists, the videos of snipers shooting at people out of nowhere, gunning down a woman fleeing with her child, gunning down youth just standing around in the West Bank, etc. etc. etc. the picture becomes clear and "it's not genocide because it could be worse" rings very very hollow. Palestinians are declared as non-persons and just hunted, starved, bombed. And the attempt to do this before the eyes of the world and to sanctify it is the worst attack on Western civilization, enlightenment and human rights since Hitler was on the cover of Time magazine.