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Maybe when airlines start advertising that they don’t use the new 737s. The more likely scenario is that the Chinese or Europeans will ground the new 737s unti
by hmottestad 3y ago
Maybe when airlines start advertising that they don’t use the new 737s.
The more likely scenario is that the Chinese or Europeans will ground the new 737s until some very expensive fix is put into place and not accept any workarounds. That would probably make a difference.
FYI: https://qz.com/1569865/china-grounds-737-max-8-after-ethiopian-airlines-et-302-crash https://qz.com/1569865/china-grounds-737-max-8-after-ethiopi...
- gostsamo 3y agoThere are mutual recognition agreements between the regulators and if the europeans try something like that, the americans can create counter measures to even the field in a mutually undesired spiral. At this moment, the biggest enemy of Boeing is Boeing itself.
- vidanay 3y agoWe don't care if people die, just so long as your enforcement is not any more rigorous than ours!
- gostsamo 3y agoIt is more like "our cooperation is more valuable than temporary monetary advantages which could be negated and which could leave everyone worse overall". I'm not sure why deliberately misinterpret my comment, but you are quite wrong. The first 737max precedent is quite instructive for the relationship between the two regulators.
- hmottestad 3y agoI’m not sure I understand what you are getting at. I’m assuming that the US is less likely to demand costly changes to aircraft produced by Boeing because of the implications it would have for their own economy. I wouldn’t trust France to preemptive ground a series of Airbus planes either.
- hef19898 3y agoSee, that, grounding of Airbus olanes, is exactly what EASA (which is European and not French) does. Spontaniously, I can think of fractures in the wings of the A380 when that happened.
- hmottestad 3y agoI’m just poking fun at the French a bit.
- hef19898 3y agoAnd why are you doing this?
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- bgnn 3y agoEU literally followa FAA: https://www.businesstravelnewseurope.com/Air-Travel/EU-airlines-unaffected-by-grounding-of-some-737-Max-aircraft https://www.businesstravelnewseurope.com/Air-Travel/EU-airli... "The European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) said it had also adopted the FAA’s Emergency Airworthiness Directive (EAD) to ground this particular. ... configuration of Boeing 737-9. “EASA took the decision to adopt the FAA’s EAD despite the fact that - to the agency's knowledge and also on the basis of statements from the FAA and Boeing - no airline in an EASA member state currently operates an aircraft in the relevant configuration,” said EASA in a statement"
- croisillon 3y agofrom a cursory check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_737_MAX_orders_and_deliveries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_737_MAX_orders_... there are not that many 737 MAX in Europe: * Ryanair (124 planes out of 575) * TUI (40 planes out of 134) * Turkish (25 planes out of 400) * Norwegian (18 planes out of 81) * Icelandair (3 planes out of 47)
- aledalgrande 3y agoWent to check on Air Canada and I thought they had way more, but they only have 40: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_fleet and aside 787s, they haven't ordered any more Boeings
- croisillon 3y agoit seems healthy to have at most a quarter of each main models