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"Idle chat" is important for safety. - They need to work well together, and the better rapport they have with each other the better they're likely to perform i

"Idle chat" is important for safety. - They need to work well together, and the better rapport they have with each other the better they're likely to perform in an actual incident. Regular interaction on the job is a part of that. - They work a job that is often remarkably boring for much of the time. Drowsiness setting in is a real concern - a degree of social interaction is good at both keeping people engaged, and at helping them gauge how alert the other crew members are.

mcculley 3y ago
I operate tug boats. It is also remarkably boring for much of the time. The crew knows that they have no privacy when in the wheelhouse operating hundreds of tons of steel. They do have privacy when not on watch. Regardless, decisions around safety are not made by what is "accepted by the crew".
mcculley 3y ago
> "Idle chat" is important for safety. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_flight_deck_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_flight_deck_rule I agree that the crew should feel free to chat. And when there is an accident, they should expect that the recordings are kept.
- notpushkin 3y ago
  > during critical phases of flight
- reciprocity 3y ago
  This rule applies to the taxiing, takeoff, and descent into landing phases of flight only. It isn't enforced above 10k feet. Idle chatter is important for numerous reasons in any professional working environment and it isn't a reasonable conclusion to say that it should not be allowed in this one. It's also unfathomably unreasonable to call for storage of all voice recordings of the flight deck in perpetuity. That's ridiculous and is privacy invading. If you want to improve the state of this industry, you are looking in the wrong place.
  - mcculley 3y ago
    I did not argue for "storage of all voice recordings of the flight deck in perpetuity". I argued against what is "accepted by the crew" being considered.

mcculley 3y ago

I operate tug boats. It is also remarkably boring for much of the time. The crew knows that they have no privacy when in the wheelhouse operating hundreds of tons of steel. They do have privacy when not on watch. Regardless, decisions around safety are not made by what is "accepted by the crew".

mcculley 3y ago

> "Idle chat" is important for safety. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_flight_deck_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_flight_deck_rule I agree that the crew should feel free to chat. And when there is an accident, they should expect that the recordings are kept.

notpushkin 3y ago
> during critical phases of flight
reciprocity 3y ago
This rule applies to the taxiing, takeoff, and descent into landing phases of flight only. It isn't enforced above 10k feet. Idle chatter is important for numerous reasons in any professional working environment and it isn't a reasonable conclusion to say that it should not be allowed in this one. It's also unfathomably unreasonable to call for storage of all voice recordings of the flight deck in perpetuity. That's ridiculous and is privacy invading. If you want to improve the state of this industry, you are looking in the wrong place.
- mcculley 3y ago
  I did not argue for "storage of all voice recordings of the flight deck in perpetuity". I argued against what is "accepted by the crew" being considered.