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300euros for the 8700g, perfect for a mini-PC to play dota2 on my custom linux distro. I would push the envelop for a dirt cheap motherboard, without network o

300euros for the 8700g, perfect for a mini-PC to play dota2 on my custom linux distro. I would push the envelop for a dirt cheap motherboard, without network or audio chips, only many USB-C high-speed ports (and dongles for those). I guess the power supply or battery pack will be the most expensive component after the APU and before the RAM. We are talking <500 euros serious gaming mini-PC.

Aaronstotle 3y ago
I'm more interested in the custom linux distro part, was it hard to setup? I used to dabble a lot with Linux and its how I got my career in tech actually. Closest I got to something like that was a gentoo distro, although I think I messed something up because I wasn't able to boot into it after all that setup.
- sylware 3y ago
  I have 2 decades of linux system dev programming. Most of open source SDKs are abominations and code is being literaly brain fucked by ultra-complex syntax languages like c++, rust and similar. I am disgusted, to a point for me, open source software is now hardly less worse than msft or apple trash. I have open source software only because I can still customize it enough to let me bear with it and it is free as in free beer. That to say, the amount of insane and broken knowledge you need to properly maintain a fully custom linux distro (very custom) is obscene. I am trying to find ways out of some of the critical issues for myself, basically trying to move a mountain with a spoon.
toast0 3y ago
Audio and ethernet are probably cheaper onboard than with whatever you need to enable usb-c and an external dongle. The real way to get a cheaper board is going chipsetless; something knoll3 like this [1], but without the fancy bits. Single 1g ethernet, no ipmi, no oculink, and the price probably comes way down. Although, I do see there's a MSI PRO A620M-E Micro ATX out there for $75, so maybe we can have a chipset after all. [1] https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=AM5D4ID-2T/BCM#Specifications https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=A...
- sylware 3y ago
  We don't need a chipset at all: we have the APU USB and NVMe disk. RAM slots, PCIE slots, M.2 slots and a bunch of usb-c connectors, power connectors, an UEFI bios, and we are good to go. But for the normal users, yeah, an audio chip and a Gbits network chip would be appropriate (probably routed directly to some APU PCIE pins).
thorncorona 3y ago
You can easily achieve a 500 dollar Dota PC if you're willing to buy used. I bought a 5600x / 32GB RAM / RTX 3070 PC for 550 USD a bit ago.

Aaronstotle 3y ago

I'm more interested in the custom linux distro part, was it hard to setup? I used to dabble a lot with Linux and its how I got my career in tech actually. Closest I got to something like that was a gentoo distro, although I think I messed something up because I wasn't able to boot into it after all that setup.

sylware 3y ago
I have 2 decades of linux system dev programming. Most of open source SDKs are abominations and code is being literaly brain fucked by ultra-complex syntax languages like c++, rust and similar. I am disgusted, to a point for me, open source software is now hardly less worse than msft or apple trash. I have open source software only because I can still customize it enough to let me bear with it and it is free as in free beer. That to say, the amount of insane and broken knowledge you need to properly maintain a fully custom linux distro (very custom) is obscene. I am trying to find ways out of some of the critical issues for myself, basically trying to move a mountain with a spoon.

toast0 3y ago

Audio and ethernet are probably cheaper onboard than with whatever you need to enable usb-c and an external dongle. The real way to get a cheaper board is going chipsetless; something knoll3 like this [1], but without the fancy bits. Single 1g ethernet, no ipmi, no oculink, and the price probably comes way down. Although, I do see there's a MSI PRO A620M-E Micro ATX out there for $75, so maybe we can have a chipset after all. [1] https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=AM5D4ID-2T/BCM#Specifications https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=A...

sylware 3y ago
We don't need a chipset at all: we have the APU USB and NVMe disk. RAM slots, PCIE slots, M.2 slots and a bunch of usb-c connectors, power connectors, an UEFI bios, and we are good to go. But for the normal users, yeah, an audio chip and a Gbits network chip would be appropriate (probably routed directly to some APU PCIE pins).

thorncorona 3y ago

You can easily achieve a 500 dollar Dota PC if you're willing to buy used. I bought a 5600x / 32GB RAM / RTX 3070 PC for 550 USD a bit ago.