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If this site is supposed to be a good demo of what they’re capable of, it’s failing pretty hard for me. - Takes ages to finish loading - huge number of featur

If this site is supposed to be a good demo of what they’re capable of, it’s failing pretty hard for me. - Takes ages to finish loading - huge number of features/functionality I don’t want a website to have over my phone/desktop - navigation is broken: swiping back causes some double-navigation stutter. - history is broken: attempting to navigate back to HN loads the same page again and again with no content change a stack of times, before I can finally escape.

Lornedon 3y ago
I understood this as a showcase of the features that PWAs can use, and I think it does a pretty good job at that. Do I understand your second point correctly? The feature demo is failing at being a feature demo because it demoes some features that you don't like?
- FridgeSeal 3y ago
  If you demoed a car, whose feature set included “often opening the glove box into your shins” and “texting inappropriate things to your ex”, you’d be pretty leery of using it. If random people kept going on about how much they love this car, and the ex-texting features were so good, that they hoped to upgrade them into “actively calling your ex” you’d be a bit leery of what they were talking about. Every time someone talks about “how great PWA’s are” and how much better they’ll be after just some more features, I just hear “more stuff for advertisers to abuse”, “more things for half-assed devs to drain my battery and network with” and “more ways to have shittier experiences, slower” the less I’m interested in them. More concretely, it’s a feature demo that doesn’t work (see navigation) for features I consider anti-features.
  - Lornedon 3y ago
    If there was a car with those features and someone sold it to me without talking about them, I would be pretty angry. I think you're shooting the messenger here.

Lornedon 3y ago

I understood this as a showcase of the features that PWAs can use, and I think it does a pretty good job at that. Do I understand your second point correctly? The feature demo is failing at being a feature demo because it demoes some features that you don't like?

FridgeSeal 3y ago
If you demoed a car, whose feature set included “often opening the glove box into your shins” and “texting inappropriate things to your ex”, you’d be pretty leery of using it. If random people kept going on about how much they love this car, and the ex-texting features were so good, that they hoped to upgrade them into “actively calling your ex” you’d be a bit leery of what they were talking about. Every time someone talks about “how great PWA’s are” and how much better they’ll be after just some more features, I just hear “more stuff for advertisers to abuse”, “more things for half-assed devs to drain my battery and network with” and “more ways to have shittier experiences, slower” the less I’m interested in them. More concretely, it’s a feature demo that doesn’t work (see navigation) for features I consider anti-features.
- Lornedon 3y ago
  If there was a car with those features and someone sold it to me without talking about them, I would be pretty angry. I think you're shooting the messenger here.