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Animals like newborn deer fawns are born knowing how to walk, follow their mothers around, and run away from danger, although their legs are weak at first. So t

Animals like newborn deer fawns are born knowing how to walk, follow their mothers around, and run away from danger, although their legs are weak at first. So this makes me wonder if having to learn object permanence is just one more example of human babies being underdeveloped compared to those of other species of animals.

nickpsecurity 3y ago
Alternatively, God made human babies superior in design from birth by giving them increased adaptability. The extra flexibility might require the specific movements to be trained, puts them behind on any specific goal at the start, and over time makes them exceed the innate capabilities of other species over time. By exceed, they might have a higher variety of behaviors or do them better (esp with tech). In A.I., we see this with hard-coded, assembly FSM’s vs interpreters running high-level code. The former works with high-efficiency out of the box but can’t change behavior or improve much. The latter does nothing until it’s taught the extra knowledge (interpreted codes) which also might have new behaviors (functions). Many game developers switched from hard-coded assembly to interpreted code for AI agents for that reason. So, it’s not under-developed: it’s a better-developed component with different tradeoffs.
- riversflow 3y ago
  > God made human babies superior in design from birth by giving them increased adaptability. Holy assumptions batman. Homo sapiens aren't "superior", that's a terrible starting place for a hypothesis. There are plenty of metrics a human will never beat other species. Reaction time is a great starting place.
  - pests 3y ago
    Sure, but which species is sitting here having a conversation about it?
    - nickpsecurity 3y ago
      The apex predators of the Earth who are in control of it using their brains that nothing else can match. They also regularly contemplate this using their morals, imaginations, and reasoning. Definitely far above the rest.
      - riversflow 3y ago
        We are not in control of Earth lol.
        pests 3y ago
        Eh, for varying definitions of control. Which species, in your opinion, controls the Earth?
        riversflow 3y ago
        None. Every living thing is at the mercy of nature.
        pests 3y ago
        Not a valid answer. Pick a species with the most power and control.
        timschmidt 3y ago
        At least six global mass extinctions suggest to me that you're correct. However, life itself did survive global magma flows, asteroid impacts, etc. With that in mind I'd say the species that rules Earth is probably a single celled organism which lives deep underground and feeds on chemical gradients. You could blast the whole planet apart without life changing a whole lot for that little guy and his brethren.
        pests 3y ago
        We still here too, in the light, on the surface, surviving the same six global mass extinctions.

nickpsecurity 3y ago

Alternatively, God made human babies superior in design from birth by giving them increased adaptability. The extra flexibility might require the specific movements to be trained, puts them behind on any specific goal at the start, and over time makes them exceed the innate capabilities of other species over time. By exceed, they might have a higher variety of behaviors or do them better (esp with tech). In A.I., we see this with hard-coded, assembly FSM’s vs interpreters running high-level code. The former works with high-efficiency out of the box but can’t change behavior or improve much. The latter does nothing until it’s taught the extra knowledge (interpreted codes) which also might have new behaviors (functions). Many game developers switched from hard-coded assembly to interpreted code for AI agents for that reason. So, it’s not under-developed: it’s a better-developed component with different tradeoffs.

riversflow 3y ago
> God made human babies superior in design from birth by giving them increased adaptability. Holy assumptions batman. Homo sapiens aren't "superior", that's a terrible starting place for a hypothesis. There are plenty of metrics a human will never beat other species. Reaction time is a great starting place.
- pests 3y ago
  Sure, but which species is sitting here having a conversation about it?
  - nickpsecurity 3y ago
    The apex predators of the Earth who are in control of it using their brains that nothing else can match. They also regularly contemplate this using their morals, imaginations, and reasoning. Definitely far above the rest.
    - riversflow 3y ago
      We are not in control of Earth lol.
      - pests 3y ago
        Eh, for varying definitions of control. Which species, in your opinion, controls the Earth?
        riversflow 3y ago
        None. Every living thing is at the mercy of nature.
        pests 3y ago
        Not a valid answer. Pick a species with the most power and control.
        timschmidt 3y ago
        At least six global mass extinctions suggest to me that you're correct. However, life itself did survive global magma flows, asteroid impacts, etc. With that in mind I'd say the species that rules Earth is probably a single celled organism which lives deep underground and feeds on chemical gradients. You could blast the whole planet apart without life changing a whole lot for that little guy and his brethren.
        pests 3y ago
        We still here too, in the light, on the surface, surviving the same six global mass extinctions.