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> All three GeForce RTX 40 SUPER Series GPUs are faster than their predecessors It's weird that they're only comparing the new cards to the RTX 30's and 20's,
by laweijfmvo 3y ago
> All three GeForce RTX 40 SUPER Series GPUs are faster than their predecessors
It's weird that they're only comparing the new cards to the RTX 30's and 20's, and not the "v1" 40's. I assume the 4080 SUPER is faster than the 4080 (based on name?) but it seems cheaper and there's absolutely no comparison data
- selectodude 3y agoThey’re trying to sell to me, the owner of a fully orphaned 3070 with a measly 8GB of vram. Not a current 40 series owner.
- notJim 3y agoWhat does orphaned mean in this context?
- throwup238 3y agoThe two parent 2080s were lost in a tragic cryptocurrency mining accident when the bitcoin ceiling collapsed. Please send donations to the Aboveground Miners fund in your choice of shitcoin.
- pixelpoet 3y agoI get that it's supposed to be funny, but I wonder how many people still think bitcoin mining happens on GPUs, particularly Nvidia ones. Pretty sure that stopped being the case like 14 years ago or something? Anyway...
- throwup238 3y agoASICs didn’t really take over until around 2013 (I was designing some PCBs for one of the first ASICs in 2012)
- paulmd 3y agoLitecoin and Doge and Ethereum were mined on GPUs throughout that period. And in fact all the other coins are tied to bitcoin in the first place, bitcoin price runs also trigger huge mining booms in everything else, so yeah, it's kinda understandable that people tend to view them as a single linked thing, because they kinda are. What, precisely, is the point of making "actually you mean crypto, not bitcoin" posts, other than demonstrating that you are, indeed, "very smart"? Like, this person doesn't even exist, it's just a "heh aren't those no-coiners dumb" strawperson that you imagine to be some big dummy.
- Yizahi 3y agoAll tokens are effectively "slaved" to the BTC tokens due to paper thin real liquidity of all of them. Therefore GPUs were very much affected by the BTC volatility, just via proxy, and likely still are. It should be obvious really for anyone.
- newsclues 3y agoLess desirable because vram has become more important.
- jasonjmcghee 3y agoThis was what I came to comment. Very strange. This article https://beebom.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-4070-ti-super-gpu-specs-release-date-price/ https://beebom.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-4070-ti-super-gpu-specs-r... says "the RTX 4070 Ti Super is up to 10% faster than the non-Super 4070 Ti on average" So, on average, up to 10% faster, yeah seems pretty incremental.
- anonym29 3y agoThe big difference with the 4070 Ti Super is that it's using the AD103 chip (with a full 256-bit memory bus and 16GB of VRAM) found in the 4080, which is a huge leap over the AD104 chip found in the 4070 Ti (non-Super), which only touts a 192-bit memory bus and 12GB of VRAM. While the TFLOPS of the Super variant does only see a ~10% increase as you note, memory bandwidth jumps by 42% and the memory capacity jumps by 33%, while the launch price is the same in my currency. It basically bridges half the distance between a 4070 Ti (non-Super) and a 4080 (non-Super) for the same launch price as a 4070 Ti (non-Super). Great card for memory intensive workloads like LLM inference with big context windows, IMO. EDIT1: 4070 Ti Super TDP is 320W (same as 4080), higher than the anticipated 285W EDIT2: launch price confirmed to be same as the 4070 Ti (non-Super), lower than anticipated!
- burntalmonds 3y agoIt sure would be nice if Nvidia just named the new card 4075 or something. The whole 4070 vs 4070 Super vs 4070 Ti vs 4070 Ti Super naming scheme sucks.
- jasonjmcghee 3y agoAppreciate the extra insight here! I hope for the sake of purchasers it is only 12% cost increase, but I have a suspicion if there's more than 12% extra value, we'll see it in the price
- anonym29 3y agoJust checked the CES announcement and updated my post to reflect that it actually has the same launch price that the 4070 Ti (non-Super) had! Amazing bargain!
- maxlin 3y agoThis stands out like a sore thumb for anyone even taking a glance at the graphs. Who there thought this was a good idea? Now I think the Supers are just going to be 10% faster while drawing 30% more power or something else hacky and desperate-seeming.
- newsclues 3y agoMost people don’t upgrade to the same generation super card. Most people upgrade from a 10, 20 or less so 30 series card. They are selling upgrades to older generations.
- bryanlarsen 3y agoBut everybody who is upgrading is trying to figure out which card to upgrade to, and are doing comparisons between the current gen cards, not between their old card and the new ones.
- adrian_b 3y agoIt is likely that there will be no choice between Super and non-Super. At least 4070 Ti and 4080 have become completely obsolete when their Super variants are much better, and in the case of 4080 Super, even cheaper too. I suppose that they have stopped producing the non-Super variants, as nobody would want those where the Super cards are available. I am still using a 2060 Super from 2019, and the same has happened in that year when the RTX 2000 Super series has replaced the previous RTX 2000 series.
- newsclues 3y agoI think people shop based on, have card A and get X fps and I can get Y fps with card B. Card A is old, and card B is new. The availability of original and super cards that compete in the same price point will be very short, and most people won’t really have that choice.
- bayofpigs 3y ago[dead]