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The important bits... > The GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER arrives January 31st, starting at $999 > The GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER launches January 24th, starting at $

The important bits... > The GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER arrives January 31st, starting at $999 > The GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER launches January 24th, starting at $799 > The GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER launches January 17th, starting at $599

stetrain 3y ago
And they're claiming the 4070 Super provides more performance than an 3090 at lower TDP (220W vs 350W).
- kllrnohj 3y ago
  The 3090 is 21% faster than a 4070, so with the 4070 SUPER having 20% more cuda cores than a 4070 then that's plausible. But it's really more a reflection on how shitty the 4070 was than anything else tbh
alyandon 3y ago
I wonder if nVidia is going to commit to providing enough stock to keep prices at or under those MSRP values.
- upon_drumhead 3y ago
  lol, not going to happen. The low MSRP is too low for partners to make any money and so they’ll keep the prices inflated as much as the market will bare, regardless of the availability of the chips
- kllrnohj 3y ago
  Since crypto has crashed so much and most of these are borderline useless for AI/ML, there's not likely to be too much of an issue. The MSRP is already massively marked up.
  - alyandon 3y ago
    Considering the poor generational performance uplift the original 4000 series cards had vs the 3000 series - it almost seems like these super variants are what nVidia should have originally launched. :-/
    - ziml77 3y ago
      Poor performance uplift? The 4080 is significantly faster than the 3090 with much lower power consumption!
      - tagrun 3y ago
        Raw performance per dollar (after including inflation adjustment) has stagnated in 40 Series. A similar thing happened in 20 Series. SUPER series has been a response to rival products offering better raw performance/price released afterwards. Power consumption is a separate issue which may or may not be a concern depending on where you live.
      - kllrnohj 3y ago
        The 4080/4090 are outliers of the generation though unfortunately, and also are themselves still a rather typical generational gain at that. Most of the rest of the 40xx stack was either unexpectedly slow or unexpectedly expensive (or both), such that performance per dollar stayed flat or regressed
        ziml77 3y ago
        Ah that makes sense. I don't pay close enough attention to the mid tier or the low end. I'm sure I saw at some point that there were problems with those cards but it's hard to remember when it doesn't stand out because people are negative about every GPU.
      - beebeepka 3y ago
        It's not always faster than the 3090, let alone "significantly", except in very specific resolutions and games. here's a review from a traditionally pro intel and nvidia outlet: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-founders-edition/5.html https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-f...

stetrain 3y ago

And they're claiming the 4070 Super provides more performance than an 3090 at lower TDP (220W vs 350W).

kllrnohj 3y ago
The 3090 is 21% faster than a 4070, so with the 4070 SUPER having 20% more cuda cores than a 4070 then that's plausible. But it's really more a reflection on how shitty the 4070 was than anything else tbh

alyandon 3y ago

I wonder if nVidia is going to commit to providing enough stock to keep prices at or under those MSRP values.

upon_drumhead 3y ago
lol, not going to happen. The low MSRP is too low for partners to make any money and so they’ll keep the prices inflated as much as the market will bare, regardless of the availability of the chips
kllrnohj 3y ago
Since crypto has crashed so much and most of these are borderline useless for AI/ML, there's not likely to be too much of an issue. The MSRP is already massively marked up.
- alyandon 3y ago
  Considering the poor generational performance uplift the original 4000 series cards had vs the 3000 series - it almost seems like these super variants are what nVidia should have originally launched. :-/
  - ziml77 3y ago
    Poor performance uplift? The 4080 is significantly faster than the 3090 with much lower power consumption!
    - tagrun 3y ago
      Raw performance per dollar (after including inflation adjustment) has stagnated in 40 Series. A similar thing happened in 20 Series. SUPER series has been a response to rival products offering better raw performance/price released afterwards. Power consumption is a separate issue which may or may not be a concern depending on where you live.
    - kllrnohj 3y ago
      The 4080/4090 are outliers of the generation though unfortunately, and also are themselves still a rather typical generational gain at that. Most of the rest of the 40xx stack was either unexpectedly slow or unexpectedly expensive (or both), such that performance per dollar stayed flat or regressed
      - ziml77 3y ago
        Ah that makes sense. I don't pay close enough attention to the mid tier or the low end. I'm sure I saw at some point that there were problems with those cards but it's hard to remember when it doesn't stand out because people are negative about every GPU.
    - beebeepka 3y ago
      It's not always faster than the 3090, let alone "significantly", except in very specific resolutions and games. here's a review from a traditionally pro intel and nvidia outlet: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-founders-edition/5.html https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-f...