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Why stop at this? Let's internationally ban poor taste and kitsch in general. I'm sure it would go well.

atticora 3y ago
Unfortunately it's very easy to find people who agree with the non-ironic reading of this and are fully aware that it is incompatible with any notion of a limit to democracy or state power.
- jampekka 3y ago
  Luckily the irony won't be lost on those who prefer oligarchy over democracy.
rokkitmensch 3y ago
If I could find a tasteful dictator, I'd consider a wholesale replacement of democracy for this reason alone.
- toss1 3y ago
  Indeed! But that's a tall order, but finding a reliable source of successor tasteful dictators is even more unlikely. Better to go with finding a set of people with good taste, then use sortition to select the leader.
  - rokkitmensch 3y ago
    Wasn't that the lizards' promise when they convinced us to incubate their eggs at the ivies?
drzaiusapelord 3y ago
Billboards can be taken down. Fashion comes and goes. Kitchens can be redone. Hair grows back. Things on the moon are permanent until launching is 1000x cheaper. Even then, who would pay to clean up and what property rights are in play? Lets stop polluting the moon with garbage to get rich people involved in projects (ashes of relatives, etc). Invest on its merits, not on some morbid ego boosting entitlement. NASA and the international community needs to step in here. The moon should not be the trophy case of the super-rich. Also these budget moon missions are starting to get concerning. What standards bodies are in control here, if any? The Israeli's lost one in 2019. It crashed on the moon and spilled a bunch of tardigardes and dna samples on its surface.
- orbital-decay 3y ago
  People are going to leave traces on the Moon, this way or another. I see very little difference between landers, rovers, human ashes, and garbage piles astronauts are going to leave near a surface habitat. This isn't something that should be either stopped or encouraged, unless it's something like nuclear waste. Potential biological contamination is another question, and it's been given plenty of thought already. There are no land property rights on the Moon or any other celestial body, according to the current treaty. It's going to stay that way until the world powers will have something to gain from it. The exploitation of potential water resources already caused some talk on that matter.
fumeux_fume 3y ago
Excellent point about the dangers of international agreements

Unfortunately it's very easy to find people who agree with the non-ironic reading of this and are fully aware that it is incompatible with any notion of a limit to democracy or state power.

jampekka 3y ago
Luckily the irony won't be lost on those who prefer oligarchy over democracy.

rokkitmensch 3y ago

If I could find a tasteful dictator, I'd consider a wholesale replacement of democracy for this reason alone.

toss1 3y ago
Indeed! But that's a tall order, but finding a reliable source of successor tasteful dictators is even more unlikely. Better to go with finding a set of people with good taste, then use sortition to select the leader.
- rokkitmensch 3y ago
  Wasn't that the lizards' promise when they convinced us to incubate their eggs at the ivies?

drzaiusapelord 3y ago

Billboards can be taken down. Fashion comes and goes. Kitchens can be redone. Hair grows back. Things on the moon are permanent until launching is 1000x cheaper. Even then, who would pay to clean up and what property rights are in play? Lets stop polluting the moon with garbage to get rich people involved in projects (ashes of relatives, etc). Invest on its merits, not on some morbid ego boosting entitlement. NASA and the international community needs to step in here. The moon should not be the trophy case of the super-rich. Also these budget moon missions are starting to get concerning. What standards bodies are in control here, if any? The Israeli's lost one in 2019. It crashed on the moon and spilled a bunch of tardigardes and dna samples on its surface.

orbital-decay 3y ago
People are going to leave traces on the Moon, this way or another. I see very little difference between landers, rovers, human ashes, and garbage piles astronauts are going to leave near a surface habitat. This isn't something that should be either stopped or encouraged, unless it's something like nuclear waste. Potential biological contamination is another question, and it's been given plenty of thought already. There are no land property rights on the Moon or any other celestial body, according to the current treaty. It's going to stay that way until the world powers will have something to gain from it. The exploitation of potential water resources already caused some talk on that matter.

fumeux_fume 3y ago

Excellent point about the dangers of international agreements