> nonetheless, the point stands. I'm not contending the point (I'm in slight agreement with you, I believe). I'm only trying to point out that people are often

> nonetheless, the point stands. I'm not contending the point (I'm in slight agreement with you, I believe). I'm only trying to point out that people are often talking past each other, because each person in that two-way conversation are often using different meanings of the word "evidence". There is too much nuance to call either end of the spectrum "wrong for the meaning of 'evidence'".