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There have been plenty of studies for a long time regarding this and a practical 'study' going on for now a long time across the globe with billions of people.

There have been plenty of studies for a long time regarding this and a practical 'study' going on for now a long time across the globe with billions of people. What is your specific worry? getting cancer? The paper you reference states the same: "Hence, VR headsets and mobile phones are safe." And yes light is the same thing as anthropomorphically generated electromagnetic radiation, depending on what radiation you talk about. like the light coming from the display. If you mean the specific wireless connection, than no. At least pls tell me that you don't have quarz cyrstals around you for protection. But if you would take this serious, you do not use wifi? You do life in a metal mesh?

Podgajski 3y ago
Why do people have to constantly degrade the legitimate science going on between the question of man-made electromagnetic radiation and human health? One of the biggest differences between light and electromagnetic waves created by humans is that they are polarized. Light waves are not polarized they are scattered. Light waves are also not pulsed. Cancer? Maybe. What about cataracts? What about tinnitus? What about mood disturbances? What about Parkinson’s? EMFs affect our neurology and it’s been published and papers over and over. There are non-thermal effects in biological beings that are underplayed by the industry. Is this going to affect everyone the same way? No. Because genetics matter. The fact that electromagnetic radiation seems to stimulate voltage gated ion channels will mean that people with, different genetics in these ion channels will have different effects to electromagnetic radiation. And in fact, I am one of these people who are sensitive to it. Both low frequency and radio frequency, EMF cause mood, disturbances, insomnia, and tinnitus. And when, using laptops with high levels of low frequency electromagnetic radiation i have nosebleeds. Other people have seen this happened to me in real time. I’m sure that’s all in my head though right?
- trogdor 3y ago
  >I’m sure that’s all in my head though right? I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem too difficult to create a blind (better, double-blind) test so you can know for sure. Is that something you are interested in doing?
  - Podgajski 3y ago
    I’ve done it, which is why I’m so certain it affects me. I’ve had people help me do it.
    - Hehohei 3y ago
      Can you elaborate how your experiment was setup? After all, while you do post studies which clarify details of your theory, you do not counter the 48 studies linked in the wikipedia article.
      - Podgajski 3y ago
        The studies don’t only include people who are genetically susceptible to EMFs. so if only one and 10 people have the sensitivity, the probability they will be in the studies are reduced. Then you have the problem in the studies of people claiming they have the sensitivity when it is an anxiety or psychological issue. These are widely known issues with the studies that say there’s no effect. As for myself, the last five years I have consistently noted how I slept, and how I felt and then only afterward measuring the frequency, magnetic and electric fields, and the radio frequency electronic radiation. If I do not know if they magnetic field or electric field is strong, then there is no way placebo effect could occur, correct? This is the same with the laptops that I measure high magnetic fields, giving me bloody nose. Apple computers have very low EMF emissions, while most other laptops are very high. I discovered accidentally because I work a lot with computers. It was only after measuring the fields that I noticed what was going on. My last experiment was my tinnitus. I had someone put a cell phone on the table behind my head streaming videos. One was a video off-line and the other one was a video from YouTube. They were the same video. But the one that was streaming from YouTube after 5 to 10 minutes my tent is increased. This did not occurr with the other Video playing when the phone was on airplane mode. Regarding my sleep, I live in a minivan and I can sleep 10 hours when I am in low or absent EMF area. If I am in a high area, especially with bid man 5G, my sleep is interrupted and it must I get 4 to 5 hours of sleep. I can guarantee you as I’ve worked as a network engineer for one of the largest networking companies that I was way more skeptical of this than you will ever be.
- Ynottingten 3y ago
  Sun light is polarized. I literaly have a polarizing filter for my camera. And bluntly saying: yes you do fully read as someone with a head problem. You would not survive a blind study regarding EMF and your nose bleeding and would be a very famous person if you could proof that. All EMF fields we have and face daily are not strong enough at all for any 'ion channels'. Are you even aware how many fields you walk through every single day? Public transport, power lines, wifi etc. your own electric cable has a magnetic field. Weird that you actually connect ion channels/EMF with blood vessal issues at all. Feel free to read the wikipedia article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivi... "Electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) is a claimed sensitivity to electromagnetic fields, to which negative symptoms are attributed. EHS has no scientific basis and is not a recognized medical diagnosis, although it is generally accepted that the experience of EHS symptoms is of psychosomatic origin."
  - Podgajski 3y ago
    This is the second time I’ve read this Mr. interpretation of sunlight being polarized on hacker news. Sunlight is not polarized. When you use a polarizing filter, you are polarizing the light. That’s why they call them polarizing filters. Sunlight, reflecting off of a lake is partially polarized which is what creates the intensity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3049010/#:~:text=Light%20arriving%20on%20Earth%20from,%2C%20at%20most%2C%20weakly%20polarized https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3049010/#:~:tex.... Light arriving on Earth from natural sources, either directly from the Sun or reflected from the Moon, is unpolarized or, at most, weakly polarized. There is some amount of polarization once it strikes the Earth, but all EMF radiation from telecommunications is polarized, like a laserbeam. https://www.edmundoptics.com/c/laser-polarization/760/ https://www.edmundoptics.com/c/laser-polarization/760/ Since you don’t know enough about the polarization of light, it’s not fair to me to comment on your ignorance about man-made electromagnetic fields in the rest of what you said. And please post something deeper than a Wikipedia article, or actually just look up anything that is opposite of your current bias.
    - Hehohei 3y ago

Podgajski 3y ago

Why do people have to constantly degrade the legitimate science going on between the question of man-made electromagnetic radiation and human health? One of the biggest differences between light and electromagnetic waves created by humans is that they are polarized. Light waves are not polarized they are scattered. Light waves are also not pulsed. Cancer? Maybe. What about cataracts? What about tinnitus? What about mood disturbances? What about Parkinson’s? EMFs affect our neurology and it’s been published and papers over and over. There are non-thermal effects in biological beings that are underplayed by the industry. Is this going to affect everyone the same way? No. Because genetics matter. The fact that electromagnetic radiation seems to stimulate voltage gated ion channels will mean that people with, different genetics in these ion channels will have different effects to electromagnetic radiation. And in fact, I am one of these people who are sensitive to it. Both low frequency and radio frequency, EMF cause mood, disturbances, insomnia, and tinnitus. And when, using laptops with high levels of low frequency electromagnetic radiation i have nosebleeds. Other people have seen this happened to me in real time. I’m sure that’s all in my head though right?

trogdor 3y ago
>I’m sure that’s all in my head though right? I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem too difficult to create a blind (better, double-blind) test so you can know for sure. Is that something you are interested in doing?
- Podgajski 3y ago
  I’ve done it, which is why I’m so certain it affects me. I’ve had people help me do it.
  - Hehohei 3y ago
    Can you elaborate how your experiment was setup? After all, while you do post studies which clarify details of your theory, you do not counter the 48 studies linked in the wikipedia article.
    - Podgajski 3y ago
      The studies don’t only include people who are genetically susceptible to EMFs. so if only one and 10 people have the sensitivity, the probability they will be in the studies are reduced. Then you have the problem in the studies of people claiming they have the sensitivity when it is an anxiety or psychological issue. These are widely known issues with the studies that say there’s no effect. As for myself, the last five years I have consistently noted how I slept, and how I felt and then only afterward measuring the frequency, magnetic and electric fields, and the radio frequency electronic radiation. If I do not know if they magnetic field or electric field is strong, then there is no way placebo effect could occur, correct? This is the same with the laptops that I measure high magnetic fields, giving me bloody nose. Apple computers have very low EMF emissions, while most other laptops are very high. I discovered accidentally because I work a lot with computers. It was only after measuring the fields that I noticed what was going on. My last experiment was my tinnitus. I had someone put a cell phone on the table behind my head streaming videos. One was a video off-line and the other one was a video from YouTube. They were the same video. But the one that was streaming from YouTube after 5 to 10 minutes my tent is increased. This did not occurr with the other Video playing when the phone was on airplane mode. Regarding my sleep, I live in a minivan and I can sleep 10 hours when I am in low or absent EMF area. If I am in a high area, especially with bid man 5G, my sleep is interrupted and it must I get 4 to 5 hours of sleep. I can guarantee you as I’ve worked as a network engineer for one of the largest networking companies that I was way more skeptical of this than you will ever be.
Ynottingten 3y ago
Sun light is polarized. I literaly have a polarizing filter for my camera. And bluntly saying: yes you do fully read as someone with a head problem. You would not survive a blind study regarding EMF and your nose bleeding and would be a very famous person if you could proof that. All EMF fields we have and face daily are not strong enough at all for any 'ion channels'. Are you even aware how many fields you walk through every single day? Public transport, power lines, wifi etc. your own electric cable has a magnetic field. Weird that you actually connect ion channels/EMF with blood vessal issues at all. Feel free to read the wikipedia article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivi... "Electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) is a claimed sensitivity to electromagnetic fields, to which negative symptoms are attributed. EHS has no scientific basis and is not a recognized medical diagnosis, although it is generally accepted that the experience of EHS symptoms is of psychosomatic origin."
- Podgajski 3y ago
  This is the second time I’ve read this Mr. interpretation of sunlight being polarized on hacker news. Sunlight is not polarized. When you use a polarizing filter, you are polarizing the light. That’s why they call them polarizing filters. Sunlight, reflecting off of a lake is partially polarized which is what creates the intensity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3049010/#:~:text=Light%20arriving%20on%20Earth%20from,%2C%20at%20most%2C%20weakly%20polarized https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3049010/#:~:tex.... Light arriving on Earth from natural sources, either directly from the Sun or reflected from the Moon, is unpolarized or, at most, weakly polarized. There is some amount of polarization once it strikes the Earth, but all EMF radiation from telecommunications is polarized, like a laserbeam. https://www.edmundoptics.com/c/laser-polarization/760/ https://www.edmundoptics.com/c/laser-polarization/760/ Since you don’t know enough about the polarization of light, it’s not fair to me to comment on your ignorance about man-made electromagnetic fields in the rest of what you said. And please post something deeper than a Wikipedia article, or actually just look up anything that is opposite of your current bias.
  - Hehohei 3y ago