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You can buy 7 Quest 3s for the price. Or 14 Quest 2s. How many people did what you did though? Were those all Apple branded monitors + printers? There were muc

You can buy 7 Quest 3s for the price. Or 14 Quest 2s. How many people did what you did though? Were those all Apple branded monitors + printers? There were much cheaper alternatives in the same time frame. I paid full price for a 3DS on day one, doesn't mean it was the right price for it to be a success.

scarface_74 3y ago
I could also buy 10 Android BLU F92 5G phones for the price of 1 iPhone 15 Pro Max. I won’t be doing that either. All indications is that Apple will only be able to manufacturer 2 million of them. Is there any doubt those will sell out. As far as how many people did it. Back in 1992, Apple was the number one seller of computers when they started selling “low cost” Macs. Apple didn’t start struggling until Windows 95. Apple was more valuable than Microsoft until the mid 90s if I recall correctly While Apple sold a lot less Apple //e’s than low cost Commodores and Atari computers, they were much more profitable.
- goosedragons 3y ago
  Yes, there is doubt they will sell out. How many $3500 things does Apple sell? Most of what they sell doesn't come close. There's no obvious business need for a Vision Pro unlike a $3500 MacBook Pro config either. And a Quest 3 is a much closer competitor to the Vision Pro than a Blu F92 5G is to a iPhone 15 Pro Max...
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    Does it have less space than the Quest and no wireless and therefore will be lame? (Deep cut)
    - goosedragons 3y ago
      Do you think the iPod would have been the same sales success if it cost 700% more than a Nomad instead of being basically the same price? $399 for 5GB iPod, $500 for 6GB Nomad?
      - seec 3y ago
        The current crop of Apple fanboys apologist has left all logics and facts out of the door, so I don't expect telling them something true will have any effect. In fact, they are the sole reason Apple has been able to charge those ludicrous price lately. It seems they exist only to validate and rationalise any stupidly greedy decision Apple is making. At this point it really has become very close to a cult...
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        The iPhone Pro Max I referenced above is 10x as expensive as the cheaper good enough Android phone. Even the high end iPads are about 10x as expensive as a Fire Tablet. The original iPhone was unsubsidized at $700 compared to “free” phones and was laughed at by Balmer for that very reason.
        goosedragons 3y ago
        How many months did it take for Apple to lower the price of the iPhone to $400 and drop the 4GB model again? Or did they do that out of the goodness of their hearts?
        scarface_74 3y ago
        $400 was still more than the “free” phones that carriers were giving away and it’s my understanding that in the rest of the world, most people still have to drop the cash for the total cost of the phone
        goosedragons 3y ago
        You don't slash the price of something selling within your expectations after a few months. And you know that crummy $0 free on contract phones weren't the competitor to the iPhone. It was $400 on contract smartphones like the Palm Treo 750 or Cingular 8525, actually comparable devices.
        3y ago
JohnBooty 3y ago
I'm not telling you it's worth it. I do not own Apple stock, I don't work for them, and I'm not buying one (although I'll be watching with great interest) However.... whether or not you think any of these products are worth it, the Apple Vision Pro is objectively pretty far ahead of the Quest 2/3 in terms of capability.

scarface_74 3y ago

I could also buy 10 Android BLU F92 5G phones for the price of 1 iPhone 15 Pro Max. I won’t be doing that either. All indications is that Apple will only be able to manufacturer 2 million of them. Is there any doubt those will sell out. As far as how many people did it. Back in 1992, Apple was the number one seller of computers when they started selling “low cost” Macs. Apple didn’t start struggling until Windows 95. Apple was more valuable than Microsoft until the mid 90s if I recall correctly While Apple sold a lot less Apple //e’s than low cost Commodores and Atari computers, they were much more profitable.

goosedragons 3y ago
Yes, there is doubt they will sell out. How many $3500 things does Apple sell? Most of what they sell doesn't come close. There's no obvious business need for a Vision Pro unlike a $3500 MacBook Pro config either. And a Quest 3 is a much closer competitor to the Vision Pro than a Blu F92 5G is to a iPhone 15 Pro Max...
- scarface_74 3y ago
  Does it have less space than the Quest and no wireless and therefore will be lame? (Deep cut)
  - goosedragons 3y ago
    Do you think the iPod would have been the same sales success if it cost 700% more than a Nomad instead of being basically the same price? $399 for 5GB iPod, $500 for 6GB Nomad?
    - seec 3y ago
      The current crop of Apple fanboys apologist has left all logics and facts out of the door, so I don't expect telling them something true will have any effect. In fact, they are the sole reason Apple has been able to charge those ludicrous price lately. It seems they exist only to validate and rationalise any stupidly greedy decision Apple is making. At this point it really has become very close to a cult...
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      The iPhone Pro Max I referenced above is 10x as expensive as the cheaper good enough Android phone. Even the high end iPads are about 10x as expensive as a Fire Tablet. The original iPhone was unsubsidized at $700 compared to “free” phones and was laughed at by Balmer for that very reason.
      - goosedragons 3y ago
        How many months did it take for Apple to lower the price of the iPhone to $400 and drop the 4GB model again? Or did they do that out of the goodness of their hearts?
        scarface_74 3y ago
        $400 was still more than the “free” phones that carriers were giving away and it’s my understanding that in the rest of the world, most people still have to drop the cash for the total cost of the phone
        goosedragons 3y ago
        You don't slash the price of something selling within your expectations after a few months. And you know that crummy $0 free on contract phones weren't the competitor to the iPhone. It was $400 on contract smartphones like the Palm Treo 750 or Cingular 8525, actually comparable devices.
        3y ago

JohnBooty 3y ago

I'm not telling you it's worth it. I do not own Apple stock, I don't work for them, and I'm not buying one (although I'll be watching with great interest) However.... whether or not you think any of these products are worth it, the Apple Vision Pro is objectively pretty far ahead of the Quest 2/3 in terms of capability.