You're probably right. I guess what I'm really looking for is something like ubuntu server but an even smaller attack default attack surface and with apk packag

You're probably right. I guess what I'm really looking for is something like ubuntu server but an even smaller attack default attack surface and with apk packaging since that just works and apt and rpm automatic update has either been too complex or buggy and lead to bad outcomes where patches I thought were being applied were not being applied. I'm not married to musl. Some of my stuff I would like to use breaks without systemd though.