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>2021 and 2022 felt like great years in terms of the job market. 2023 felt horrible. Well, we had people bragging about working 2, 3 or more remote jobs in 202

>2021 and 2022 felt like great years in terms of the job market. 2023 felt horrible. Well, we had people bragging about working 2, 3 or more remote jobs in 2021/2022, so I'm not sure that should be the expectations anchor. 2023 reversed some of that. We're in a lull, no doubt. But there's still a lot happening.

jstarfish 3y ago
I now question how many of these cases were legitimate and/or sustainable. Coincidental to the overemployment stories, there was a trend of entry-level workers taking jobs and abandoning them at the end of the training period. They'd work a series of short-term "jobs" concurrently in which they collected pay for the time period in which nobody had any real expectations from them, and left when that changed. Overemployment candidates don't hide it well, or the media was making news up based on viral bullshit someone exaggerated on Reddit based on the above trend. I figured someone would try this shit so I kept an eye out; we only ever caught two OE cases arising from unresponsive remote employees with low output. (One confessed.) There's not exactly any mystery to catching this, and there's a ton of ways to get caught (as repeatedly reported by Redditors). I have a hard time believing this narrative was ever real for more than a handful of people. The story mainly seemed to serve as astroturf citable in support of eventual RTO mandates.
CoastalCoder 3y ago
> Well, we had people bragging about working 2, 3 or more remote jobs in 2021/2022 Do we know how prevalent that really was though? I just assumed those were extreme outliers, famous because they were so outrageous.
- epolanski 3y ago
  Also, I never understood why people had a beef with it. Companies bend and cut the throat of loyal hard working employees the moment they are not relevant yet people raged some ethics there which was very misplaced.

jstarfish 3y ago

I now question how many of these cases were legitimate and/or sustainable. Coincidental to the overemployment stories, there was a trend of entry-level workers taking jobs and abandoning them at the end of the training period. They'd work a series of short-term "jobs" concurrently in which they collected pay for the time period in which nobody had any real expectations from them, and left when that changed. Overemployment candidates don't hide it well, or the media was making news up based on viral bullshit someone exaggerated on Reddit based on the above trend. I figured someone would try this shit so I kept an eye out; we only ever caught two OE cases arising from unresponsive remote employees with low output. (One confessed.) There's not exactly any mystery to catching this, and there's a ton of ways to get caught (as repeatedly reported by Redditors). I have a hard time believing this narrative was ever real for more than a handful of people. The story mainly seemed to serve as astroturf citable in support of eventual RTO mandates.

CoastalCoder 3y ago

> Well, we had people bragging about working 2, 3 or more remote jobs in 2021/2022 Do we know how prevalent that really was though? I just assumed those were extreme outliers, famous because they were so outrageous.

epolanski 3y ago
Also, I never understood why people had a beef with it. Companies bend and cut the throat of loyal hard working employees the moment they are not relevant yet people raged some ethics there which was very misplaced.