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>With Mac Virtual Display, users can even bring the powerful capabilities of their Mac into Vision Pro, creating an enormous, private, and portable 4K display,

>With Mac Virtual Display, users can even bring the powerful capabilities of their Mac into Vision Pro, creating an enormous, private, and portable 4K display, ideal for pro workflows this to me would be the more immediate selling point(compared to more consumer type stuff), if this is good enough to replace external monitors so I can essentially have my ideal setup wherever I want. Companies could offer these as a return to office incentive, in theory they would cut back on a lot of the productivity complaints of open office compared to home office.

programbreeding 3y ago
>Companies could offer these as a return to office incentive So an office full of people with VR headsets on? I don't see the incentive in that compared to doing it from home.
- n2d4 3y ago
  The incentive is that you can take your headset off and have a real face-to-face conversation with your coworkers. And when you want to go back and focus, you put the headset back on and are free of distractions. I tried this for a few days with the Quest 2 in a coworking space. I thought it was cool, but the displays weren't good enough and I had trouble reading small text.
  - 1oooqooq 3y ago
    The incentive is that you can take your headset off and have a real *sweaty* face-to-*sweaty*-face conversation with your coworkers fixed.
  - Jcowell 3y ago
    Why that instead of striking home and facetiming/zooming on the device itself?
  - Philpax 3y ago
    You have a device that can present a virtual reality that you can share with people all around the world and you want to use it to visit an office and block out the people there? That seems a little backwards to me!
nottorp 3y ago
> creating an enormous, private, and portable 4K display One? But but... I use multiple monitors... what kind of pros are they targeting it at? > Companies could offer these as a return to office incentive ... along with a self driving car so you can wear your headset on the 2 hour commute? :)
- ren_engineer 3y ago
  >multiple monitors so do I, haven't looked too deeply into Apple Vision honestly. My post was just conjecture on the most viable use case short term. there was an HN thread discussing it, seems like it would come down to how well Apple can do eye tracking to dynamically give higher resolution where you are looking - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37037563 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37037563 for me it just comes down to being an ergonomic improvement over my laptop alone while traveling. If it can do that, I'd buy one and write it off as a business expense
- talentedcoin 3y ago
  Apple “pro” stuff has meant “pro-sumer” for awhile now - nice stuff, for some, but nothing to do with “professionals” per se.
- theshackleford 3y ago
  Plenty of pros to my surprise operate with a single display, by choice.
- macintux 3y ago
  I have multiple monitors at home, but when I’m traveling, I’m stuck with my laptop. Could be a huge upgrade.
- GeekyBear 3y ago
  > One? You realize that you can turn your head in the virtual space to see another virtual monitor?
  - LordDragonfang 3y ago
epolanski 3y ago
My coworkers has exactly this setup using the latest oculus he says he loves it. But he doesn't use it. So go figure.
Hehohei 3y ago
I will not sit in a office, were other people can see me, wearing snow goggles. As expensive as they are, as stylish as they are.
- eclipxe 3y ago
  Why do you care what it looks like to other people around you?
  - Hehohei 3y ago
    Why do people wear makeup? Are you asking me personally? Or do you question the statement overall? I do live in a society were we evaluate people by looks to a certain degree. I also don't like it when i don't see my environment.
  - steve1977 3y ago
    Especially when you can’t see these people and their reactions anymore anyway.
crims0n 3y ago
This is the use case I really want to pan out... but so far have been disappointed. My latest attempt was the Quest Pro, and while the virtual monitors were useable for the first time, they were something around 1080p and the latency was too distracting.
wongarsu 3y ago
I see the value of that function mostly in public spaces. When you sit on the train, in a plane, waiting at the airport, etc it's currently difficult (though not impossible) to bring a good screen setup, and the risk of shoulder-surfing limits the kinds of data you can work on. A VR headset theoretically solves both issues. Of course Apple are hardly the first to promise this, and ever other implementation I've tried so far suffered from being incredibly inconvenient due to the low resolution of VR headsets. The Apple Vision Pro at least has 4k for each eye, which should allow you to simulate 1080p screens at a comfortable distance. That might be enough to make it viable if the controls work out good enough. Still not enough to beat physical monitors when you have the space for them.

programbreeding 3y ago

>Companies could offer these as a return to office incentive So an office full of people with VR headsets on? I don't see the incentive in that compared to doing it from home.

n2d4 3y ago
The incentive is that you can take your headset off and have a real face-to-face conversation with your coworkers. And when you want to go back and focus, you put the headset back on and are free of distractions. I tried this for a few days with the Quest 2 in a coworking space. I thought it was cool, but the displays weren't good enough and I had trouble reading small text.
- 1oooqooq 3y ago
  The incentive is that you can take your headset off and have a real *sweaty* face-to-*sweaty*-face conversation with your coworkers fixed.
- Jcowell 3y ago
  Why that instead of striking home and facetiming/zooming on the device itself?
- Philpax 3y ago
  You have a device that can present a virtual reality that you can share with people all around the world and you want to use it to visit an office and block out the people there? That seems a little backwards to me!

nottorp 3y ago

> creating an enormous, private, and portable 4K display One? But but... I use multiple monitors... what kind of pros are they targeting it at? > Companies could offer these as a return to office incentive ... along with a self driving car so you can wear your headset on the 2 hour commute? :)

ren_engineer 3y ago
>multiple monitors so do I, haven't looked too deeply into Apple Vision honestly. My post was just conjecture on the most viable use case short term. there was an HN thread discussing it, seems like it would come down to how well Apple can do eye tracking to dynamically give higher resolution where you are looking - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37037563 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37037563 for me it just comes down to being an ergonomic improvement over my laptop alone while traveling. If it can do that, I'd buy one and write it off as a business expense
talentedcoin 3y ago
Apple “pro” stuff has meant “pro-sumer” for awhile now - nice stuff, for some, but nothing to do with “professionals” per se.
theshackleford 3y ago
Plenty of pros to my surprise operate with a single display, by choice.
macintux 3y ago
I have multiple monitors at home, but when I’m traveling, I’m stuck with my laptop. Could be a huge upgrade.
GeekyBear 3y ago
> One? You realize that you can turn your head in the virtual space to see another virtual monitor?
- LordDragonfang 3y ago

epolanski 3y ago

My coworkers has exactly this setup using the latest oculus he says he loves it. But he doesn't use it. So go figure.

Hehohei 3y ago

I will not sit in a office, were other people can see me, wearing snow goggles. As expensive as they are, as stylish as they are.

eclipxe 3y ago
Why do you care what it looks like to other people around you?
- Hehohei 3y ago
  Why do people wear makeup? Are you asking me personally? Or do you question the statement overall? I do live in a society were we evaluate people by looks to a certain degree. I also don't like it when i don't see my environment.
- steve1977 3y ago
  Especially when you can’t see these people and their reactions anymore anyway.

crims0n 3y ago

This is the use case I really want to pan out... but so far have been disappointed. My latest attempt was the Quest Pro, and while the virtual monitors were useable for the first time, they were something around 1080p and the latency was too distracting.

wongarsu 3y ago

I see the value of that function mostly in public spaces. When you sit on the train, in a plane, waiting at the airport, etc it's currently difficult (though not impossible) to bring a good screen setup, and the risk of shoulder-surfing limits the kinds of data you can work on. A VR headset theoretically solves both issues. Of course Apple are hardly the first to promise this, and ever other implementation I've tried so far suffered from being incredibly inconvenient due to the low resolution of VR headsets. The Apple Vision Pro at least has 4k for each eye, which should allow you to simulate 1080p screens at a comfortable distance. That might be enough to make it viable if the controls work out good enough. Still not enough to beat physical monitors when you have the space for them.