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This product is the first step to the real future of tech. Just like the iPhone took years to catch on (similarly to Vision Pro, the big problem was price), thi

This product is the first step to the real future of tech. Just like the iPhone took years to catch on (similarly to Vision Pro, the big problem was price), this product's successors will be the market leaders for all tech in 5 years (maybe longer, but I think 5 years is fair).

seec 3y ago
You are delusional, the iPhone was cheaper at launch than it has ever been after. If they changed the price, it cannot be just a small change, and they cannot lower the quality that much (because the much cheaper alternatives are not that far). It seems pretty obvious that Cook's greed got the better of him and instead of absorbing the startup price of this new venture he decided to pass all costs to consumers (plus the usual fat margin of course). If they drop the price in half at the second gen, it will look extremely bad, even by Apple's standard. In any case that ship has sailed...
Hehohei 3y ago
I just read the release section of wikipedia and it doesn't sound like it took long for the iPhone to 'catch on'. "As of Q4 2007, strong iPhone sales put Apple no. 2 in U.S. smartphone vendors, behind Research In Motion and ahead of all Windows Mobile vendors.[50]" Im also pretty sure that, why its interesting, the benefit is still less than runing your outfit (literally) and this alone will be a deal breaker for A LOT of people. Despite the price: A lot of corporate phones are top seller phones. I don't get budget from my company to buy this one AND any other deivce and you need both, a laptop and that device as you will not use it 8h a day
- bombcar 3y ago
  The iPhone was a no-brainer for everyone who had an iPod and a phone in their pocket (reason I got one). But also remember just how fragmented the phone market was at the time, becoming “second place” wasn’t terribly hard at the time.
Shrezzing 3y ago
Did the iphone take years to catch on? Apple sold >1m units in the first six months, 10m in the first full year, and then had near double digit sales growth for a half decade - even though it launched during the global financial crisis.
kevstev 3y ago
Not really sure what you mean by it taking years for the Iphone to catch on... It was highly coveted from its release in 2007. The 3G was a massive step forward, but by 2009 and the 3GS release, it was completely mainstream- at least to those who could afford it. I don't think this is going to get picked up by anyone who has the money, not even close.
epolanski 3y ago
Yeah the future of further human isolation and depression behind promotional videos of happy people video chatting together.
ren_engineer 3y ago
cell phones were a proven product by the time the iPhone came out, Apple just made a way better one. VR is still unproven beyond enthusiasts at this point, so it's a bigger risk of failure in my opinion
makeitdouble 3y ago
The iPhone was virtually the only capacitive touch screen phone in 2007. The commercial competition was non existent. The Vision Pro isn't that, the specs are already matched by the Varjo on the higher end, and there's already competition forming to match the price target from all over the place. Sure, "made by Apple" will be a seal of a quality that attracts followers of the brand, but it's probably more on par with the Pro Display XDR in terms of impact. And we'll wait for something akin to the Studio Display to see what Apple has really to offer against the competitikn at a reasonable price.
- 1oooqooq 3y ago
  > only capacitive touch screen phone in 2007 thanks to acquiring fingerworks in 2005. ...Now this, this is just shelfware VR googles with a face scanner gimmick.
- joebolte 3y ago
  The Varjo doesn’t have an external display or a real-time processor, and those are just two examples.
AdrianB1 3y ago
I see this having a real future in some special cases, but for this price not as a general use tech. I saw a movie where a guy was repairing a ship with some AR (not VR) glasses/eyepiece that was identifying the parts he was looking at and helping with information on what is that, what it does, how to assemble or disassemble etc. Like having the instructions in your hands while having your hands free to work. Voice commands should be included. But creating the app showing the instructions and then loading good models and information in the app is probably the big challenge. I work in manufacturing, there are so many maintenance operations and a limited amount of experts that can do it. With the right price and the right apps and docs, this can make a huge difference.

seec 3y ago

You are delusional, the iPhone was cheaper at launch than it has ever been after. If they changed the price, it cannot be just a small change, and they cannot lower the quality that much (because the much cheaper alternatives are not that far). It seems pretty obvious that Cook's greed got the better of him and instead of absorbing the startup price of this new venture he decided to pass all costs to consumers (plus the usual fat margin of course). If they drop the price in half at the second gen, it will look extremely bad, even by Apple's standard. In any case that ship has sailed...

Hehohei 3y ago

I just read the release section of wikipedia and it doesn't sound like it took long for the iPhone to 'catch on'. "As of Q4 2007, strong iPhone sales put Apple no. 2 in U.S. smartphone vendors, behind Research In Motion and ahead of all Windows Mobile vendors.[50]" Im also pretty sure that, why its interesting, the benefit is still less than runing your outfit (literally) and this alone will be a deal breaker for A LOT of people. Despite the price: A lot of corporate phones are top seller phones. I don't get budget from my company to buy this one AND any other deivce and you need both, a laptop and that device as you will not use it 8h a day

bombcar 3y ago
The iPhone was a no-brainer for everyone who had an iPod and a phone in their pocket (reason I got one). But also remember just how fragmented the phone market was at the time, becoming “second place” wasn’t terribly hard at the time.

Shrezzing 3y ago

Did the iphone take years to catch on? Apple sold >1m units in the first six months, 10m in the first full year, and then had near double digit sales growth for a half decade - even though it launched during the global financial crisis.

kevstev 3y ago

Not really sure what you mean by it taking years for the Iphone to catch on... It was highly coveted from its release in 2007. The 3G was a massive step forward, but by 2009 and the 3GS release, it was completely mainstream- at least to those who could afford it. I don't think this is going to get picked up by anyone who has the money, not even close.

epolanski 3y ago

Yeah the future of further human isolation and depression behind promotional videos of happy people video chatting together.

ren_engineer 3y ago

cell phones were a proven product by the time the iPhone came out, Apple just made a way better one. VR is still unproven beyond enthusiasts at this point, so it's a bigger risk of failure in my opinion

makeitdouble 3y ago

The iPhone was virtually the only capacitive touch screen phone in 2007. The commercial competition was non existent. The Vision Pro isn't that, the specs are already matched by the Varjo on the higher end, and there's already competition forming to match the price target from all over the place. Sure, "made by Apple" will be a seal of a quality that attracts followers of the brand, but it's probably more on par with the Pro Display XDR in terms of impact. And we'll wait for something akin to the Studio Display to see what Apple has really to offer against the competitikn at a reasonable price.

1oooqooq 3y ago
> only capacitive touch screen phone in 2007 thanks to acquiring fingerworks in 2005. ...Now this, this is just shelfware VR googles with a face scanner gimmick.
joebolte 3y ago
The Varjo doesn’t have an external display or a real-time processor, and those are just two examples.

AdrianB1 3y ago

I see this having a real future in some special cases, but for this price not as a general use tech. I saw a movie where a guy was repairing a ship with some AR (not VR) glasses/eyepiece that was identifying the parts he was looking at and helping with information on what is that, what it does, how to assemble or disassemble etc. Like having the instructions in your hands while having your hands free to work. Voice commands should be included. But creating the app showing the instructions and then loading good models and information in the app is probably the big challenge. I work in manufacturing, there are so many maintenance operations and a limited amount of experts that can do it. With the right price and the right apps and docs, this can make a huge difference.