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Let me put it this way: It takes more brain cycles, for me, to look and confirm where the needles are pointing than it does to read a number. I'm driving a ca

Let me put it this way: It takes more brain cycles, for me, to look and confirm where the needles are pointing than it does to read a number. I'm driving a car, I can't afford to look down for more than a split second. I can read numbers with a split second glance. I can't read shit glancing at a needle for a split second.

bayindirh 3y ago
Let me put it this way: You're not supposed to read them precisely, but pattern match it, and it takes less than a split second for most of us. You might have an atypical brain, and I respect that, but most people's brain work that way. This is why dashboards do not have "sea of green lights", but things light up when things go wrong, because it breaks the pattern and gets your attention. Your brain is much more capable than you think. It can do much more things without you notice. Like you have a peripheral vision close to 180 degrees, and even if it's blurry, your brain processes that space for (pattern) anomalies, without you noticing.
- badcppdev 3y ago
  My thought here is that if someone is clearly expressing that their brain processes stuff differently to what you feel is normal then it's best to avoid using phrases like, "Your brain is". I think you've started off great with your comment about respect but rewording some of the sentences after that to clarify that you're talking about neurotypical brains might be better.
  - gruez 3y ago
    >I think you've started off great with your comment about respect but rewording some of the sentences after that to clarify that you're talking about neurotypical brains might be better. Isn't that implied in most contexts? If I'm talking about legs' role in running, I don't need to clarify that I'm talking about normal legs, and not legs that are suffering from impairments/disabilities.
    - the-chitmonger 3y ago
      It is implied in most contexts, but not in one where the person is responding to a person who has expressed that they have an atypical condition. It can also come off as invalidating a person's lived condition/experience which is a bit rude.
      - Izkata 3y ago
        They didn't claim that originally, they said it was just a historical accident because we didn't originally have the technology.
  - bayindirh 3y ago
    As a non-native English speaker, it's not my intention to be disrespectful or rude, or anything on the same line. I'll not edit that comment to keep your comment and the context intact, but keep that in mind. Thanks.
  - claytongulick 3y ago
    I find third-party language policing to be a barrier to effective communication. If the (presumably adult, competent) person being replied to takes offense, they are perfectly capable of suggesting different phrasing.
    - badcppdev 3y ago
      That's really interesting. I observe miscommunication all the time and often feel it's great people just not quite clicking with how they express things. The beauty of multiple sub-comments is that a 3rd party can put in a side note and allow the original parties to listen or ignore as they feel fit.
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  - EdwardDiego 3y ago
    As someone who is neuroatypical, pattern matching is kinda what human brains are evolved for. I can't think of any type of condition where you can function effectively yet not pattern match. Hell, we have plenty of disorders and conditions and diseases where there's too much pattern matching going on.
- linkjuice4all 3y ago
  Turned or "clocked" gauges [0] are used to further reduce cognitive load by turning the gauges so that the needle aligns to closely to a horizontal or vertical line when operating in normal conditions. If you notice that your gauges are not pointing "straight up" then you can take a second pass and actually read the indicated number on the gauge. I understand that this is not helpful for things like vehicle speed but OP's point still applies. [0] https://www.motortrend.com/news/hot-rodding-basics-why-do-some-race-cars-have-sideways-gauges/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/hot-rodding-basics-why-do-so...
  - bayindirh 3y ago
    I never heard that before, fascinating. Thanks.

bayindirh 3y ago

Let me put it this way: You're not supposed to read them precisely, but pattern match it, and it takes less than a split second for most of us. You might have an atypical brain, and I respect that, but most people's brain work that way. This is why dashboards do not have "sea of green lights", but things light up when things go wrong, because it breaks the pattern and gets your attention. Your brain is much more capable than you think. It can do much more things without you notice. Like you have a peripheral vision close to 180 degrees, and even if it's blurry, your brain processes that space for (pattern) anomalies, without you noticing.

badcppdev 3y ago
My thought here is that if someone is clearly expressing that their brain processes stuff differently to what you feel is normal then it's best to avoid using phrases like, "Your brain is". I think you've started off great with your comment about respect but rewording some of the sentences after that to clarify that you're talking about neurotypical brains might be better.
- gruez 3y ago
  >I think you've started off great with your comment about respect but rewording some of the sentences after that to clarify that you're talking about neurotypical brains might be better. Isn't that implied in most contexts? If I'm talking about legs' role in running, I don't need to clarify that I'm talking about normal legs, and not legs that are suffering from impairments/disabilities.
  - the-chitmonger 3y ago
    It is implied in most contexts, but not in one where the person is responding to a person who has expressed that they have an atypical condition. It can also come off as invalidating a person's lived condition/experience which is a bit rude.
    - Izkata 3y ago
      They didn't claim that originally, they said it was just a historical accident because we didn't originally have the technology.
- bayindirh 3y ago
  As a non-native English speaker, it's not my intention to be disrespectful or rude, or anything on the same line. I'll not edit that comment to keep your comment and the context intact, but keep that in mind. Thanks.
- claytongulick 3y ago
  I find third-party language policing to be a barrier to effective communication. If the (presumably adult, competent) person being replied to takes offense, they are perfectly capable of suggesting different phrasing.
  - badcppdev 3y ago
    That's really interesting. I observe miscommunication all the time and often feel it's great people just not quite clicking with how they express things. The beauty of multiple sub-comments is that a 3rd party can put in a side note and allow the original parties to listen or ignore as they feel fit.
- deleted 3y ago
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- EdwardDiego 3y ago
  As someone who is neuroatypical, pattern matching is kinda what human brains are evolved for. I can't think of any type of condition where you can function effectively yet not pattern match. Hell, we have plenty of disorders and conditions and diseases where there's too much pattern matching going on.
linkjuice4all 3y ago
Turned or "clocked" gauges [0] are used to further reduce cognitive load by turning the gauges so that the needle aligns to closely to a horizontal or vertical line when operating in normal conditions. If you notice that your gauges are not pointing "straight up" then you can take a second pass and actually read the indicated number on the gauge. I understand that this is not helpful for things like vehicle speed but OP's point still applies. [0] https://www.motortrend.com/news/hot-rodding-basics-why-do-some-race-cars-have-sideways-gauges/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/hot-rodding-basics-why-do-so...
- bayindirh 3y ago
  I never heard that before, fascinating. Thanks.