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I tire of repeating myself in this thread, but: I can't read meters, at least not with the time and attention I can afford to spare while driving a car. I don'

I tire of repeating myself in this thread, but: I can't read meters, at least not with the time and attention I can afford to spare while driving a car. I don't care about research, because: I. Can't. Read. Meters. While. Driving. Give me numbers. I can read them faster, we can all be safer. Fin.

bayindirh 3y ago
You don't need to read them, look at their relative positions on their dial and have an idea. This is how they work. When I look at them, I have an idea of my speed within +/- 3KM/h and rev. within +/- 200 RPM. No read, just glance. I let my brain process. I don't read my car's dials either. Temperature gauge even has no numbers, but three sections: Too cold, normal, too hot. The same dial even has some large, smart hysteresis programmed into it. If the engine doesn't move out of its tolerance, it always shows the middle, meaning "it's alright". Same for speed, rev and fuel. I just look at the needle's position. Fuel is also esp. problematic because the best you can get is a guess. Unless you "guess and dampen", it'll just move/change all the time.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  Let me put it this way: It takes more brain cycles, for me, to look and confirm where the needles are pointing than it does to read a number. I'm driving a car, I can't afford to look down for more than a split second. I can read numbers with a split second glance. I can't read shit glancing at a needle for a split second.
  - bayindirh 3y ago
    Let me put it this way: You're not supposed to read them precisely, but pattern match it, and it takes less than a split second for most of us. You might have an atypical brain, and I respect that, but most people's brain work that way. This is why dashboards do not have "sea of green lights", but things light up when things go wrong, because it breaks the pattern and gets your attention. Your brain is much more capable than you think. It can do much more things without you notice. Like you have a peripheral vision close to 180 degrees, and even if it's blurry, your brain processes that space for (pattern) anomalies, without you noticing.
    - badcppdev 3y ago
      My thought here is that if someone is clearly expressing that their brain processes stuff differently to what you feel is normal then it's best to avoid using phrases like, "Your brain is". I think you've started off great with your comment about respect but rewording some of the sentences after that to clarify that you're talking about neurotypical brains might be better.
      - gruez 3y ago
        >I think you've started off great with your comment about respect but rewording some of the sentences after that to clarify that you're talking about neurotypical brains might be better. Isn't that implied in most contexts? If I'm talking about legs' role in running, I don't need to clarify that I'm talking about normal legs, and not legs that are suffering from impairments/disabilities.
        the-chitmonger 3y ago
        It is implied in most contexts, but not in one where the person is responding to a person who has expressed that they have an atypical condition. It can also come off as invalidating a person's lived condition/experience which is a bit rude.
        Izkata 3y ago
        They didn't claim that originally, they said it was just a historical accident because we didn't originally have the technology.
      - bayindirh 3y ago
        As a non-native English speaker, it's not my intention to be disrespectful or rude, or anything on the same line. I'll not edit that comment to keep your comment and the context intact, but keep that in mind. Thanks.
      - claytongulick 3y ago
        I find third-party language policing to be a barrier to effective communication. If the (presumably adult, competent) person being replied to takes offense, they are perfectly capable of suggesting different phrasing.
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bayindirh 3y ago

You don't need to read them, look at their relative positions on their dial and have an idea. This is how they work. When I look at them, I have an idea of my speed within +/- 3KM/h and rev. within +/- 200 RPM. No read, just glance. I let my brain process. I don't read my car's dials either. Temperature gauge even has no numbers, but three sections: Too cold, normal, too hot. The same dial even has some large, smart hysteresis programmed into it. If the engine doesn't move out of its tolerance, it always shows the middle, meaning "it's alright". Same for speed, rev and fuel. I just look at the needle's position. Fuel is also esp. problematic because the best you can get is a guess. Unless you "guess and dampen", it'll just move/change all the time.

Dalewyn 3y ago
Let me put it this way: It takes more brain cycles, for me, to look and confirm where the needles are pointing than it does to read a number. I'm driving a car, I can't afford to look down for more than a split second. I can read numbers with a split second glance. I can't read shit glancing at a needle for a split second.
- bayindirh 3y ago
  Let me put it this way: You're not supposed to read them precisely, but pattern match it, and it takes less than a split second for most of us. You might have an atypical brain, and I respect that, but most people's brain work that way. This is why dashboards do not have "sea of green lights", but things light up when things go wrong, because it breaks the pattern and gets your attention. Your brain is much more capable than you think. It can do much more things without you notice. Like you have a peripheral vision close to 180 degrees, and even if it's blurry, your brain processes that space for (pattern) anomalies, without you noticing.
  - badcppdev 3y ago
    My thought here is that if someone is clearly expressing that their brain processes stuff differently to what you feel is normal then it's best to avoid using phrases like, "Your brain is". I think you've started off great with your comment about respect but rewording some of the sentences after that to clarify that you're talking about neurotypical brains might be better.
    - gruez 3y ago
      >I think you've started off great with your comment about respect but rewording some of the sentences after that to clarify that you're talking about neurotypical brains might be better. Isn't that implied in most contexts? If I'm talking about legs' role in running, I don't need to clarify that I'm talking about normal legs, and not legs that are suffering from impairments/disabilities.
      - the-chitmonger 3y ago
        It is implied in most contexts, but not in one where the person is responding to a person who has expressed that they have an atypical condition. It can also come off as invalidating a person's lived condition/experience which is a bit rude.
        Izkata 3y ago
        They didn't claim that originally, they said it was just a historical accident because we didn't originally have the technology.
    - bayindirh 3y ago
      As a non-native English speaker, it's not my intention to be disrespectful or rude, or anything on the same line. I'll not edit that comment to keep your comment and the context intact, but keep that in mind. Thanks.
    - claytongulick 3y ago
      I find third-party language policing to be a barrier to effective communication. If the (presumably adult, competent) person being replied to takes offense, they are perfectly capable of suggesting different phrasing.

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