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It'll be useful in older days when internet bandwidth is limited and thus writing everything to a disc for sharing made sense.

themoonisachees 3y ago
It also made sense when you could reasonably get Ubuntu given to you on a disc, and you would be in your right to ask for the sources files in the same format, assuming you didn't have internet access at all. It was a matter of license compliance.
Symbiote 3y ago
I'm not even sure that would have been a useful distribution method for the first Ubuntu release, in 2004. Waiting to receive a posted CD would take longer than downloading even KDE or the kernel's source code.
- dizhn 3y ago
  You have to think globally. They sent those CDs everywhere.
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  - a1o 3y ago
    The binary ones, not the source
    - wongarsu 3y ago
      If they sent binary CDs, the GPL forces them to also send you source CDs on request.
      - Symbiote 3y ago
        That is probably the best reason these CDs were made — legal requirement. That requirement was removed in GPL version 3, where you could distribute binaries however you like and direct people to an HTTP/FTP site for the source. GPL 2 requires the same distribution method to be used.
    - dizhn 3y ago
      That's true. I must have misunderstood.
- kuschku 3y ago
  A posted CD in Germany took a day to arrive (when sent from Germany, and there were people who'd send it locally), downloading the source code for a few large packages could easily take a week on dial-up. Been there, done that.
  - Symbiote 3y ago
    In 1998 maybe, though 1 hour at even 48kbit/s is 20 megabytes, which is a decent-sized program's source. (The Linux kernel source in 2003 was about 25MB, compressed.) But in 2004?
    - kuschku 3y ago
      What's so special about 2004? My parents finally got on DSL in 2008, but until then we — and many friends I knew — were still on dial-up. (Using the good old web.de smart surfer tool, if anyone still remembers that) And remember, if you wanted to customize something you'd usually need not just one program's source, but also the libraries. Downloading all of Qt and most of KDE to customize something and build it from source took a loooong time.
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      - 29083011397778 3y ago
        > What's so special about 2004? Ubuntu's first release, IIRC
    - steve_rambo 3y ago
      I was using dial-up up to 2008, included. It could push 10 megabytes an hour at best, and even that only late at night. An hour of dial-up was on the order of 0.05-0.1% of a typical monthly salary back then. So even if you were willing to spend 10% of your monthly income (which is impractical, but this is an extreme example), it could buy you maybe 1-2 gigabytes of data. Or you could just, you know, order a (source or binary) CD for free or almost free.
- wongarsu 3y ago
  Monthly computer magazines included CDs with all kinds of software (open source, shareware, freeware, older releases of paid software) and linux distributions. Different software each month, Ubuntu maybe in the issue after an Ubuntu release.
- zokier 3y ago
  I think more common case than postage was downloading ISO on fast office internet and then burning CD-R to carry home; this was era when CD-Rs were the widely available convenient large-capacity portable media. Although that began to be already waning, it was around that time that multi-gigabyte flash drives started appearing.

themoonisachees 3y ago

It also made sense when you could reasonably get Ubuntu given to you on a disc, and you would be in your right to ask for the sources files in the same format, assuming you didn't have internet access at all. It was a matter of license compliance.

Symbiote 3y ago

I'm not even sure that would have been a useful distribution method for the first Ubuntu release, in 2004. Waiting to receive a posted CD would take longer than downloading even KDE or the kernel's source code.

dizhn 3y ago
You have to think globally. They sent those CDs everywhere.
- deleted 3y ago
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- a1o 3y ago
  The binary ones, not the source
  - wongarsu 3y ago
    If they sent binary CDs, the GPL forces them to also send you source CDs on request.
    - Symbiote 3y ago
      That is probably the best reason these CDs were made — legal requirement. That requirement was removed in GPL version 3, where you could distribute binaries however you like and direct people to an HTTP/FTP site for the source. GPL 2 requires the same distribution method to be used.
  - dizhn 3y ago
    That's true. I must have misunderstood.
kuschku 3y ago
A posted CD in Germany took a day to arrive (when sent from Germany, and there were people who'd send it locally), downloading the source code for a few large packages could easily take a week on dial-up. Been there, done that.
- Symbiote 3y ago
  In 1998 maybe, though 1 hour at even 48kbit/s is 20 megabytes, which is a decent-sized program's source. (The Linux kernel source in 2003 was about 25MB, compressed.) But in 2004?
  - kuschku 3y ago
    What's so special about 2004? My parents finally got on DSL in 2008, but until then we — and many friends I knew — were still on dial-up. (Using the good old web.de smart surfer tool, if anyone still remembers that) And remember, if you wanted to customize something you'd usually need not just one program's source, but also the libraries. Downloading all of Qt and most of KDE to customize something and build it from source took a loooong time.
    - deleted 3y ago
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    - 29083011397778 3y ago
      > What's so special about 2004? Ubuntu's first release, IIRC
  - steve_rambo 3y ago
    I was using dial-up up to 2008, included. It could push 10 megabytes an hour at best, and even that only late at night. An hour of dial-up was on the order of 0.05-0.1% of a typical monthly salary back then. So even if you were willing to spend 10% of your monthly income (which is impractical, but this is an extreme example), it could buy you maybe 1-2 gigabytes of data. Or you could just, you know, order a (source or binary) CD for free or almost free.
wongarsu 3y ago
Monthly computer magazines included CDs with all kinds of software (open source, shareware, freeware, older releases of paid software) and linux distributions. Different software each month, Ubuntu maybe in the issue after an Ubuntu release.
zokier 3y ago
I think more common case than postage was downloading ISO on fast office internet and then burning CD-R to carry home; this was era when CD-Rs were the widely available convenient large-capacity portable media. Although that began to be already waning, it was around that time that multi-gigabyte flash drives started appearing.