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> we already know that the how well a drug work depends on how much the person administering the drug believes it will work hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahah what
by gergles 15y ago
> we already know that the how well a drug work depends on how much the person administering the drug believes it will work
hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahah what? No, no we do not.
If you have a citation that suggests otherwise, I would be thrilled to read it.
The reason that we blind is because there ARE effects based on perception if the person administering the drug knows its experimental. There have been studies indicating that the administrator would say things like "this really should work", for example. That invokes the placebo effect response in the patients (which is also well documented,) but the concept that "we know how well a drug works depends on how much the person administering it believes in it" is completely incorrect.
- Alex3917 15y agoEverything you said in your comment supports what I said. If there is any non-zero effect attributable to the beliefs of the person administering the drug, then it is 100% correct to say that how well a drug works depends on how much the person administering it believes it will work, regardless of whether the difference in outcomes is enormous or tiny.
- gergles 15y agoNo, there is a difference between belief and actions. The action of saying "this one should really work" of course has an effect. There is absolutely no scientific evidence anywhere to support that the "belief" on the part of an administrator in a drug trial has anything to do with any outcomes.
- Alex3917 15y agoThat's simply not true. C.f. the clever hans effect, or all of the recent research on drug dogs: http://www.erowid.org/freedom/police/police_article1.shtml http://www.erowid.org/freedom/police/police_article1.shtml I think that should be sufficient to prove that beliefs can be transmitted non-verbally. You are trying to argue there is some distinction between belief and action, but the only reason any 'action' has an effect is because it transmits a belief. What you are saying is that the non-verbal transmission of a belief could not have an effect on outcomes, whereas the verbal transmission of a belief can. This makes no sense.