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My impressions after 3 weeks: 1) Updates are very frequent. The recent 360 modelling is quite good. 2) The experience of purchasing and after-sales service is
by chaosprint 3y ago
My impressions after 3 weeks:
1) Updates are very frequent. The recent 360 modelling is quite good.
2) The experience of purchasing and after-sales service is very good. Although the delivery check is very careless but they offer free service all the time.
3) Battery life and charging are great, whether at home or on the road.
The app preheating and the comfort of opening the rear cover are nice. Sentry mode is also good.
4) Autopilot works well on roads with decent visibility. However, it's very unsafe in some areas like snowy and foggy, and I've identified a pattern. I think Tesla should refuse to engage it in those situations.
5) The alert sounds are disastrous. Every alert is popping and clicking. This is due to a lack of envelope fade-in or fade-out during startup and shutdown. This is something that any sound engineer should understand in college Audio 101 course. Even a $1 plastic toy wouldn't have this issue. This can be fixed by firmware I think but this is a very amateur mistake.
It's not perfect, but at this price range it's hard to find a better alternative.
- epolanski 3y ago> It's not perfect, but at this price range it's hard to find a better alternative. Kia offers the EV6 which is arguably a better vehicle according to most industry experts (also starts 2k $ cheaper).
- chaosprint 3y agoInterestingly, the EV6 was the first car I drove after getting my driver's license. I've seen reviews and they're indeed good. Plus, I think it looks better than the Ioniq 5 used by my driving school. However, I don't like its limited view in reverse; 360-degree seems to be available only in the GT version, but that's much more expensive. Also, both Kia and Hyundai have unimpressive battery range.
- epolanski 3y ago320 vs 280 miles is far from a night and day difference.
- drcongo 3y agoTesla have also been caught out lying about range. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-ba...
- zelos 3y agoThe trims in the EV6 are frustrating. In the UK, at least, I couldn't get the all round cameras without also getting 20" wheels, which would have cut range and made the ride worse. In everything apart from the base model you're forced to have privacy glass, which I don't want because it makes the car even darker in the back, but only the top model has the option of acoustic glass on the side windows. That said, it is a great car.
- mgoetzke 3y agoI think it matters more what actual drivers say than industry experts
- epolanski 3y agoGood point, drivers love the EV6. It has overall better scores from owners than Model Y. E.g. Edmunds has a 4.3 rating for the EV6 users review and a 3.8 for the 2023 Model Y. Thanks for pointing this out.
- frumper 3y agoEdmunds only has a few dozen reviews on a 2021 Model Y. I'm not sure that is a good source. Over half of those are 5 star. EV6 numbers are about the same. https://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-y/2021/review/ https://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-y/2021/review/
- cbeach 3y agoI found the EV6 very claustrophobic and dark inside compared to my Tesla Model S. The EV6 looks horrible and "dumpy" from the rear compared to any Tesla EV6 is slower than the Model Y. EV6 has only 490L of storage vs. the Model Y's 854L. https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/comparisons/2022-tesla-model-y-vs-kia-ev6-comparison-review https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/comparisons/2022-tesla-m...
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- epolanski 3y agoYeah, the model Y offers more space and a third row. But the point is whether there is a comparable or even better product than the Model Y in that price range, not whether it is better in every single field.
- bergen 3y agoWhich continent/region of the world are you driving the autopilot on? Also remote roads or city?
- chaosprint 3y agoNorway. Full of snow. I usually try to enable it only on motorway, highway, or city express ring.
- DrBazza 3y agoBut how does it drive? Does it rattle and creak when you go over bumps? Does it hold its speed indefinitely at 100mph like an ICE car?
- chaosprint 3y ago> But how does it drive? I think it's more "performance" oriented than comfort > Does it rattle and creak when you go over bumps? I can feel all the subtle feedback, and the modern filter filters it better. But I didn’t feel like the car was going to fall apart. > Does it hold its speed indefinitely at 100mph like an ICE car? Why not?
- DrBazza 3y agoI've read in reviews about Teslas that they're actually really poorly built, versus historic car companies and you get the kind of creaking and rattling in 2024, you used to get in cars from the 80s. >> Does it hold its speed indefinitely at 100mph like an ICE car? > Why not? Does it? My ICE car is probably going to get replaced, and on the occasion that I'm driving through Germany, I'm doing 100+mph on the autobahns, and I can't recall seeing many EVs keeping pace with me. I wondered whether electric motors have some sort of limiter to preserve battery life or something.
- dagw 3y agoMost (all?) electric cars can easily and comfortably do 100+ mph no problem. It's just that range really drops off after ~60-70 mph so most people don't bother if they want to avoid stopping to charge several times on a longer trip. If you want to drive really far, really fast, then EVs are not for you. At 100+ mph you're stopping to recharge at least every 1.5-2 hours.
- jstsch 3y agoOn number 5, the audio layer, it's indeed terrible. So many glitches and errors. I would love to spend a week hacking the audio code and fixing some issues (by implementing proper mixing): 1) Clicking and popping of alerts and navigation speech (sounds should just overlap, i.e. like a sample based synthesizer) 2) Ensure proper ducking of music from this 'alert channel', music will now double duck when alerts are played in quick succession 3) Mix bluetooth audio (i.e. iPhone notifications) as an additional channel, right now these sounds are silently lost, unless you manually switch to Bluetooth playback. Very confusing. Oh, and add a subtle alert sound for upcoming traffic camera's ;) In the end it's a quite simple audio tree with a few parameters, that could be implemented with some very straightforward C++ code. But I have no idea what the media layer looks like, I can imagine there are a few quite smart optimizations to make for example all the streaming cameras work quickly (e.g. virtual mirrors). So perhaps it's a bit less trivial than I think.
- moepstar 3y agoRegarding 5): did you enable "Joe mode"? That should tone down the sounds by quite a bit...